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RE: RE: WinXP Env - successfully using repos WITHOUT SVNServe.EXE running. OK to do?

From: John Niven <jniven_at_bravurasolutions.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2008 13:36:09 +1200

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        From: Smith, Michelle [mailto:Michelle.Smith_at_bhpbilliton.com]
        Sent: Friday, 11 July 2008 11:50
        To: Kevin Grover
        Cc: users_at_subversion.tigris.org
        Subject: RE: WinXP Env - successfully using repos WITHOUT
SVNServe.EXE running. OK to do?
        Thank you for your polite response. I actually HAVE looked in
the SVN book (by which, I assume you mean the help file that is
installed with Subversion) and I've also tried to search the archived
mail posts. Failing to find a solution to my problem, I posted on to
this user forum. A search for the keyword "File://" doesn't actually
help since every page in the help file that has the word "File" in it
comes up. Perhaps you could point me to the appropriate section of the
SVNBook if it's so easy to find?

Hi Michelle

The SVN book is the SVN manual, available online at:

The following section talks about file:// over network shares:

<quote>"Do not be seduced by the simple idea of having all of your users
access a repository directly via file:// URLs. Even if the repository is
readily available to everyone via network share, this is a bad idea. It
removes any layers of protection between the users and the repository:
users can accidentally (or intentionally) corrupt the repository
database, it becomes hard to take the repository offline for inspection
or upgrade, and it can lead to a mess of file-permissions


        The only information that I have found about file:// access tell
me that it can be done - which I know since I've done it. What I can't
find is the pro's and con's of doing it this way. Where does it tell me
that "it's dangerous to use the file:// protocol on network shares", and
why is it dangerous?
        Michelle Smith

        Senior Database Geologist

        Uranium - Olympic Dam Expansion Project





        From: Kevin Grover [mailto:kevin_at_kevingrover.net]
        Sent: Friday, 11 July 2008 1:42 AM
        To: Smith, Michelle
        Cc: users_at_subversion.tigris.org
        Subject: Re: WinXP Env - successfully using repos WITHOUT
SVNServe.EXE running. OK to do?
        On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Smith, Michelle
<Michelle.Smith_at_bhpbilliton.com> wrote:

                I'm using Subversion for Win32, version 1.4.5
                We've been using Subversion (using the SVNSERVE.EXE
running as a Windows service) for a team of 5 people to manage version
control. Due to huge file sizes, we're about to shift across to a
dedicated SAN with massive storage volume. The WinXP desktop machine
that is currently running the SVNSERVE.EXE service will be taken
                The SAN storage space (mapped to "Y:\" on my machine)
does NOT have the SVNSERVE.EXE running as a service since it's
apparently just an array of hard drives without an operating system. My
client machine doesn't have the SVNSERVE.EXE service running either
(though subversion is installed in Program Files\Subversion). Despite
this, I can (using TortoiseSVN), create a repository on the Y:\ drive
and successfully checkout, add, commit and update changes to this
repository via my repository. The only difference I can see is that the
repository path is now "file:///Y:/Test Repository" where it used to be
                I can't find anything in the documentation about using
SVN in this manner - essentially, the only two documented methods I can
see is a) APACHE and b)SVNSERVE.EXE. I'm mystified as to how the
software is actually functioning if it's not running as a service on
either of the two machines that are a) hosting and b) communicating with
the repository.

        Then you must not be reading any of the Subversion documentation
I'm used to seeing (like the SVN Book). It's in there.

                Am I OK to use Subversion in this fashion? Is there
anything I need to be aware of?

        No. It's dangerous to use the file:// protocol on network

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