Re: Subversion workflow with PHP

Mike,

Glad I could help! You might want to check out
Springloops<http://www.springloops.com/>,
Capistrano<http://www.simplisticcomplexity.com/2006/8/16/automated-php-deployment-with-capistrano/>,
Phing <http://phing.info/trac/>, and
phpUnderControl<http://www.phpundercontrol.org/about.html>as a few
options for setting up your process. I haven't used any of them yet
but was planning on exploring them further. If you try any of them, let me
know how it works out for you!

Thanks,
Bradley

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 7:08 AM, Mike van Hoof <m.vhoof_at_scheepens.nl> wrote:

> Hey Everyone,
>
> Thanks for the advice!
>
> Had a discussion with my fellow developpers and the way Bradley explaned
> his new way of working is how we are going to do it. So everybody is going
> to get his own webserver in his local computer.
> When somebody commits his changes a hook script is going to export a
> version from the repository to the "beta" server.
>
> Again thanks, and if i run into trouble i'll let you know. Also i'll write
> a workflow document and post it sothat others can use it too!
>
>
> Met vriendelijke groet,
>
> Mike van Hoof
>
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> ------------------------------
> *Van:* Bradley Holt [mailto:bradley.holt_at_foundline.com]
> *Verzonden:* donderdag 26 juni 2008 17:52
> *Aan:* Mike van Hoof
> *CC:* users_at_subversion.tigris.org
> *Onderwerp:* Re: Subversion workflow with PHP
>
> Mike,
>
> We're currently using Subversion for PHP projects and plan on setting up a
> similar process. First, let me explain our current process, then I'll
> explain the better process I'm planning on implementing. We currently have
> "beta" and "www" versions of each site. As work is done in the trunk, a user
> will upload files to beta through FTP (everyone has their own working copy
> from which they FTP their files). Sure, you can overwrite someone else's
> work and mess stuff up on beta but there are few things that mitigate this.
> The first rule is you should commit something before (or very shortly after)
> uploading it to beta. The second rule is you should run updates often to
> make sure you've got the latest code from everyone else. The third rule is,
> if you upload something and didn't commit it, don't complain when someone
> else overwrites your work! Files are rolled out from an svn export to www to
> make sure www is always consistent. This isn't a great process, but it works
> reasonably well as long as everyone understands and follows the rules.
>
> Now, the better process I'm currently working on implementing: each user
> has their own working copy which is tied to a local web server. This way
> each user has total control over their working copy and can test their
> changes (and only their changes) before committing. Also, users can have
> more control over how often they choose to run an update and merge in
> repository changes to their working copy. We're planning on using Apache's Dynamically
> Configured Mass Virtual Hosting<http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/mass.html>so that we don't have to setup a new virtual host for every new website we
> work on. So, we'd have the following entries in DNS (or you can just use
> your hosts file for the local version below):
>
> - local.example.org - 127.0.0.1 (loopback address so you use your own
> web server)
> - beta.example.org - <beta IP address>
> - www.example.org - <www IP address>
>
> The next step would be for every commit to automatically get pushed out to
> beta so that, at any given time, one can see exactly what the trunk looks
> like. We're not sure exactly what mechanism we'll use for that yet. Taking
> it a step further, you could have a "beta" equivalent for each maintenance
> branch where changes to a particular branch are pushed out to a common web
> server.
>
> Hope this helps! Let me know if you have any questions.
>
> On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 5:23 AM, Mike van Hoof <m.vhoof_at_scheepens.nl>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello everyone,
>>
>> We are using subversion for a while now, and it works like a charm, but I
>> think our workflow is incorrect:
>> - we have a svn server with svn and the repositories
>> - we also have a webserver, with all our projects in the wwwroot. This
>> projects are our working copies, so every developper works in the same
>> working copy.
>>
>> So I think (no... i KNOW) that that is the wrong way to use subversion.
>>
>> I want every developper to have it's own workingcopy, but if they put
>> everything local it means they have to have their own webserver running
>> locally.
>> An other option is that they copy every change they do to the webserver,
>> but this slows down development.
>>
>> So now my question is: how would you approach this? Is there anyone who
>> did this before and wants to share this with me?
>>
>> I did try to search for this on google, but didn't find what i was looking
>> for...
>>
>> With kind regards,
>>
>> Mike van Hoof
>>
>> *Scheepens reclame adviseurs
>> Post **›** *Postbus 954, 5000 AZ, Tilburg
>> *Bezoek **›** *Sportweg 14, 5037 AC, Tilburg
>> *Telefoon **›** *013 5950 900
>> *Fax **›** *013 5950 901
>> *e-mail **›** **m.vhoof_at_scheepens.nl*
>> *internet **›** **www.scheepens.nl*
>>
>> *› Opvallend veelzijdig*
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Bradley Holt
> bradley.holt_at_foundline.com
>
>

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