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Re: Replying to the users of users@subversion.tigris.org

From: Erik Huelsmann <ehuels_at_gmail.com>
Date: 2006-10-31 11:53:05 CET

On 10/31/06, svn.users@salvisberg.com <svn.users@salvisberg.com> wrote:
>
> Erik Huelsmann wrote:
> > On 10/30/06, Les Mikesell <lesmikesell@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 2006-10-30 at 16:58 +0100, Oliver Betz wrote:
> >> > > > But tags in the Subject: line are ugly.
> >>
> >> > I dislike them strongly because they consume valuable space in the
> >> > Subject: column.
> >>
> >> Another data point: I like them strongly because they are often
> >> the most significant part of the subject line.
> >>
> >> > Even a three letter tag plus brackets plus space consumes six
> >> > characters.
> >>
> >> I don't recall _ever_ seeing a complaint about the list mechanisms
> >> on lists that do add a subject tag
> >
> > I however went so far as to create and submit a patch for Trac not to
> > include the project name as a prefix in the Subject line.
>
> Please forgive me for singling out an innocent bystander -- I don't want to pick on anyone in particular here, but a subject line like

That's not what I meant: I mean people have strong opinions one way or
the other. Not seeing complaints from 'the other group' is not a very
strong proof for non-existence.

> Subject: modify dump
>
> (which just came through the list) looks an awful lot like some of the spam that tends to get through to my inbox in spite of all my filtering efforts. I realize that burdening others to make up for my deficits is a lot to ask, and I am working on improving my spam handling, but a subject line like
>
> Subject: [svn] modify dump
>
> would definitely make my life easier.

Yes, but I have lists where I get subjects like this (where I can only
see the first 60 characters!)

Re: [cl-irc-devel] AW: cl-irc-devel] How do I make cl-irc ...

I do understand your problems with the current setup, but as the link
elsewhere in the thread says: there are groups with strong objections
for both ways of doing it...

> It would help ensure that the message doesn't end up in the spam folder or even get routed to SpamCop. Some of the replies on the list are brief and cryptic and at first glance look quite similar to the random text that some spammers use these days to get through SpamAssassin.

Well, how would that be better? If your spam starts prepending a list
prefix, it'll automatically get white-listed. Occasionally a
moderation error leaks spam and because of your filtering rules it
looks like something usefull.

I think it's far better to stimulate people to use descriptive subject
line, for example by ignoring mails based on their subject (meaning
non-useful subject lines will have smaller chances of getting
responses...)

bye,

Erik.

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