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Re: List admin suggestions [Attention sdusers@softwaredesign.it!]

From: Ryan Schmidt <subversion-2005_at_ryandesign.com>
Date: 2005-11-30 20:29:10 CET

On Nov 30, 2005, at 13:28, Phil Endecott wrote:

>>> - Don't send the "extra copies" that at least two of us seem to be
>>> seeing at the moment.
>
> OK, here's an analysis. The message that Ryan sent earlier was To:
> me and Cc: the list. I got 3 copies; one was a normal-looking one
> from Ryan's ISP (hostpoint.ch?) to me, the second was a normal-
> looking list post, and the third had these headers:
> [...]
> This looks to me as if sdusers@softwaredesign.it is a subscriber to
> the list, and part of their mail system ("Microsoft Connector for
> POP3 Mailboxes") is seeing the "To: Phil Endecott" header in the
> incoming message and acting on it, sending me a copy of the
> message. This is clearly wrong, but you can understand it in the
> context of something reading a POP3 mailbox; if you're ever seen
> the section of the fetchmail man page describing multi-drop
> mailboxes you'll know that there are issues with this sort of thing.

I've heard of open relays but hadn't heard of spontaneous relays! :-)

> So: sdusers@softwaredesign.it, is this a correct analysis? Can you
> do something about it?

I have to agree with the analysis. (Why didn't I come up with that?)
I was also just about to report that, when people CC me, that's when
I get three copies instead of the two I'd expect.

I've also received messages like these when replying to posts on the
list:

> Notifica sullo stato del recapito generata automaticamente.
>
> Recapito non riuscito per i seguenti destinatari.
>
> bronto@csd-bes.net
>
>
>
> Reporting-MTA: dns;srv001.softwaredesign
> Received-From-MTA: dns;srv001.softwaredesign
> Arrival-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 02:00:04 +0100
>
> Final-Recipient: rfc822;bronto@csd-bes.net
> Action: failed
> Status: 5.5.0
> Diagnostic-Code: smtp;550-rejected because the sending host
> 82.56.97.136 is in a black list at
> 550-combined.njabl.org
> 550-Dynamic/Residential IP range listed by NJABL dynablock -
> 550 http://njabl.org/dynablock.html

> Notifica sullo stato del recapito generata automaticamente.
>
> Recapito non riuscito per i seguenti destinatari.
>
> Bernhard.Rusch@blum.com
>
>
>
> Reporting-MTA: dns;srv001.softwaredesign
> Received-From-MTA: dns;srv001.softwaredesign
> Arrival-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 13:16:44 +0100
>
> Final-Recipient: rfc822;Bernhard.Rusch@blum.com
> Action: failed
> Status: 5.5.0
> Diagnostic-Code: smtp;553-mail rejected because your IP is in DUL. See
> 553 http://www.mail-abuse.com/enduserinfo.html

> Notifica sullo stato del recapito generata automaticamente.
>
> QUESTO SOLO UN MESSAGGIO DI AVVISO.
>
> NON NECESSARIO INVIARE NUOVAMENTE IL MESSAGGIO.
>
> Recapito ritardato per i seguenti destinatari.
>
> scott@nikeaa.com
>
>
>
> Reporting-MTA: dns;srv001.softwaredesign
> Received-From-MTA: dns;srv001.softwaredesign
> Arrival-Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:15:27 +0100
>
> Final-Recipient: rfc822;scott@nikeaa.com
> Action: delayed
> Status: 4.0.0
> Diagnostic-Code: smtp;451 Dynamic IP Addresses See: http://
> www.sorbs.net/lookup.shtml?82.56.97.136
> Will-Retry-Until: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 14:15:27 +0100

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