On 11-Jul-05, at 2:08 PM, email@example.com wrote:
> There's a certain attitude that comes up too frequently, when people
> propose features and the Subversion committers don't react with
> sufficient enthusiasm :-). Here that thought was expressed in
> "it seems the developers ignore the fact that other tools use
> time stamps"
> We don't "ignore" much around here. What we do is make cost/benefit
> analyses. ...[snip]
> So I'm not complaining about the substantive content of your mail.
> However, I and the other developers do not appreciate inaccurate
> accusations that we are "ignoring" arguments when we are instead
> acknowledging those arguments, engaging them critically, and weighing
> them against counterarguments.
I'm sorry, I choose my words poorly. I should have said the
developers seem to attach little value to the fact that other tools
use time stamps. Though it is funny that you bring this point up,
since it was the phrase "I'm not sympathetic" which I reacted to in a
similar way (I used it myself merely to point that out). It also
implies a certain attitude. (An unsympathetic one :-) ) Suggesting
that the people making the request have not put sufficient thought
into the request or effort into changing their work flow in the first
place. I don't think that is what is happening in this case.
But enough of that.. I don't think Ben intended to put down the
users any more than I intended to put down the developers. If I
didn't think Subversion was an excellent tool as it is, I wouldn't be
using it. Our R&D dept. switched over to Subversion at the beginning
of this year based on my pushing, and just a few weeks ago my boss
mentioned "I'm so glad we switched to Subversion"
In any case, I thought I had read on the list of a patch that has
already been made available. So the cost appears relatively low. If
the development team considers this a low priority (and I agree that
it is), it appears that the cost is in proper proportion to the
There was also a similar discussion that started off about Mac
resource forks, and became a general idea to version "extended
attributes". It seemed to have promise, but I haven't heard anything
about it for a long time.
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Received on Mon Jul 11 23:13:01 2005