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RE: Post Commit Code Formatting

From: Durfee, Bernard <Bernard.Durfee_at_suny.edu>
Date: 2005-06-22 23:03:02 CEST

> > At the very least recognizing and discussing the needs of the user
> > community in a productive and meaningful way.
>
> You are right that my response was irritated, Bernard --
> though I don't think it rose to the level of "angry", really :-).
>
> It was because we expect at least a minimal level of effort
> from you before you complain about the lack of some feature.
> In this case, there are plenty of mails in the archives about
> why this feature is not simple to implement -- there's even
> an issue filed about it, see
> http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=788.
> Also, a few moments of serious thought about the problem
> suffice to show why it is not simply a matter of installing a
> new hook on the server side.
>
> But you didn't do any of this research. You just wrote
> glibly about how easy this should be to solve, and how "it
> amazes" you the amount of resistance put forth by the
> maintainers in CVS and SVN. Well, if the maintainers of two
> separate projects are both resisting something, maybe you
> should at least pay attention to the reasons they give for
> that resistance! But your mail did not acknowledge any of
> those reasons. Either you weren't really paying attention to
> what the maintainers were saying, or you decided to ignore it.

I did actually do some research into the problem. Having not found a
solution or a reasonable explanation as to why such a feat could not be
performed, I concluded that it was due to philosophical resistance on
the part of the maintainers of CVS/SVN. That conclusion was probably
premature and was based on my lack of an in-depth understanding of the
implementation of both CVS and SVN. Glib? Maybe. Frustrated? Probably. A
simple explanation and link to the above issue would probably have
sufficed.

> We spend a lot of time and effort here "recognizing and
> discussing the needs of the user community in a productive
> and meaningful way". If you want to be part of that system,
> you have to engage in a productive and meaningful way too.
> You get out what you put in. If you'd like friendlier
> responses, then please don't adopt a tone of lofty, bemused
> bafflement yourself when you post; and if you're going to
> complain about the lack of a feature, at least do enough
> research to answer the obvious objections first.

I guess that would truly be a small price to pay considering the
commercial alternatives.

Thanks,
Bernie

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