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Re: Post Commit Code Formatting

From: <kfogel_at_collab.net>
Date: 2005-06-22 21:50:59 CEST

"Durfee, Bernard" <Bernard.Durfee@suny.edu> writes:
> > Servicing the desires of the user community?
> >
> > Does that mean everything anyone asks for? Or just trying to do the
> > most good for the most people?
>
> At the very least recognizing and discussing the needs of the user
> community in a productive and meaningful way.

You are right that my response was irritated, Bernard -- though I
don't think it rose to the level of "angry", really :-).

It was because we expect at least a minimal level of effort from you
before you complain about the lack of some feature. In this case,
there are plenty of mails in the archives about why this feature is
not simple to implement -- there's even an issue filed about it, see
http://subversion.tigris.org/issues/show_bug.cgi?id=788. Also, a few
moments of serious thought about the problem suffice to show why it is
not simply a matter of installing a new hook on the server side.

But you didn't do any of this research. You just wrote glibly about
how easy this should be to solve, and how "it amazes" you the amount
of resistance put forth by the maintainers in CVS and SVN. Well, if
the maintainers of two separate projects are both resisting something,
maybe you should at least pay attention to the reasons they give for
that resistance! But your mail did not acknowledge any of those
reasons. Either you weren't really paying attention to what the
maintainers were saying, or you decided to ignore it.

We spend a lot of time and effort here "recognizing and discussing the
needs of the user community in a productive and meaningful way". If
you want to be part of that system, you have to engage in a productive
and meaningful way too. You get out what you put in. If you'd like
friendlier responses, then please don't adopt a tone of lofty, bemused
bafflement yourself when you post; and if you're going to complain
about the lack of a feature, at least do enough research to answer the
obvious objections first.

Thank you,
-Karl

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