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Subversion reliability on windows: enough developers attention?

From: Erik Huelsmann <e.huelsmann_at_gmx.net>
Date: 2005-04-13 13:20:09 CEST

In the thread about the availability of Windows binaries for 1.2-rc1,
several things has been said or implied I feel need a reaction.

1) Because no windows binaries have been published yet, the team cannot be
sure of the quality.

I'd like to point out that, automated build and test environments have been
set up on a number of platforms to ensure the quality of the software. The
current set of platforms *includes* Windows: nightly both bdb and fsfs
backends are tested.

2) The windows platform is the lesser maintained and supported platform of
all platform. (Afterall, all devs work on unix, right?)

Wrong. We work as hard as we can to maintain *all* platforms. There are
also a number of Subversion developers working exclusively on Windows,
ofcourse next to all TortoiseSVN and AnkhSVN developers.

3) Windows packages always come last

No. There have been no announcements yet of *any* packages be it for Linux
or Windows.

Also, on this point, I must agree with John Szakmeister: being mailed
off-list ('harrassed') when binaries don't show up immediately after the
source release is not really attracting to anybody able to build binaries.

4) You need to publish nightly binaries for me as I'm an early adopter and I
can't build myself

The project developers have decided explicitly against publishing nightly
binaries: We don't want you to use trunk (=development) versions in your
production environment. If you do, you must know what you're doing.
Requiring you to build your own binaries in such cases, you must know what
you're doing given the process' complexity :-)

Next to that, helping out in IRC and on the lists becomes exponentially more
problematic with the number of 'released' versions around. By using only
released binaries, you help us help you.

5) I need the binaries *now*, since if I find a bug, soaking will need to be
extended and I want the release ASAP!

Our release process (including soaking and its restart rules) is documented
in HACKING in the subversion source tree root. Please read it. You'll find
that not every bug will reset the soak period. Hell, if it would, we would
never ever release a final release :-)

Let me conclude by thanking all early adapting users for their eagerness to
test our releases! Keep up your good work!



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