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Re: Subversion 1.2 RC1 Binaries

From: Mark T. Dame <mdame_at_mfm.com>
Date: 2005-04-12 22:58:30 CEST

kfogel@collab.net wrote:

> "Mark T. Dame" <mdame@mfm.com> writes:
>>Your whole attitude betrays you as a Windows only user. As is typical
>>of Windows only users, you don't really understand the real world,
>>only your little OS's corner of it.
>>I think the real issue isn't whether the Subversion developers should
>>provide binary distributions to whiny Windows users, but whether or
>>not whiny Windows users should be allowed to use Subversion.
>>Regardless, you aren't qualified to evaluate a release candidate, so
>>you should perhaps considering quiting before you make a real ass of
>>yourself and waiting for some kind soul to provide you with a binary
>>version of the final release.
> I hadn't wanted to say anything more in this thread, after it became
> clear that Eric Smith couldn't volunteer any time to solving this
> problem. But now I'd like to add:
> Mark's comments above do *not* reflect the sentiments of anyone
> involved in Subversion development, as far as I know.

I don't believe I ever implied that they did. In any case, that bit was
sarcastic. Apparently the sarcasm didn't come through.

> We have had
> plenty of Windows-only users, many of whom have been quite clueful;
> Subversion's Windows support would be much worse without their help.
> For that matter, we've also had some major contributors who work or
> worked for Microsoft. We're happy to have Windows users -- the more
> the better.

For better or worse, Windows is the predominant work station OS in use
today. As I said, I was being sarcastic, but, as is often the case on
the net, that sarcasm didn't come out.

> Aside from that, I personally don't like the tone of Mark's post
> ("make a real ass of yourself"? What was that for?). I'm not sure
> what purpose the post was meant to serve, and doubt that it had any
> constructive effects.

The purpose of the post was this: there are too many people who feel
that they are entitled to things that they don't pay or work for. When
it comes to open source software, the problem is *really* bad.
Thousands of people volunteer their time and expertise on open source
(and open source-like) packages. Personally I don't have time to
dedicate any more, but would still be doing it if I had the time. When
some spoiled numskull complains that their particular issue isn't being
met (after a whole *six days* even!), it just irritates the crap out of
me. If the only contribution someone can make is to complain, that
someone doesn't deserve the efforts of those that are providing the
software in the first place.

Any way, I've already wasted far more time on this than I can afford, so
'nuf said.


## Mark T. Dame <mailto:mdame@mfm.com>
## VP, Product Development
## MFM Software, Inc. (http://www.mfm.com/)
"If fifty million people say a foolish thing, it's still a foolish
      -- Bertrand Russell
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