[quoting whole message now that I've changed the subject line]
[comments in-line; please avoid top-posting, as it makes it difficult to
keep track of the various subthreads within the discussion.]
--On Friday, February 11, 2005 3:11 PM -0700 email@example.com wrote:
> I would suggest two things:
> 1) I still think it MORE important for the builders of source packages
> to do this than for the end users. Else what value are the source
> package builders really providing?
A matter of definition. If the end user is going to use a source package,
whether it be the original tarball or a derived form like an RPM, he should
run the test suite to insure that the resulting binary is reliable.
> 2) If it is important for end users to run such tests (to test
> correctness of configuration) then the error messages should point to
> problems in the configuration, rather than the developer-centric
> messages that are emitted now.
> I think you've just become accustomed to the use of testsuite that is
> suboptimal because there is nothing better.
I'm sure a patch with better messages would be welcome. User-centric
messages are best written by users, not developers.
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: Re: Victory - built subversion from RH9 source rpm!
>> From: "Jani Averbach" <firstname.lastname@example.org>
>> Date: Fri, February 11, 2005 2:54 pm
>> To: email@example.com
>> Cc: "Kenneth Porter" <firstname.lastname@example.org>,
>> On 2005-02-11 14:42-0700, email@example.com wrote:
>> > The larger issue, which no one wants to discuss, in spite of my several
>> > attempts to raise it, is whether the developer unit-test suite is an
>> > appropriate test suite for inclusion by default in source-build
>> > packages.
>> Let's talk about it. =)
>> I think it is very reasonable thing to do for __source_build__
>> packages. We have seen several post on dev@ and users@ when something
>> has went wrong with build or link, and exploded right away with test
>> I have even planned time to time make the test suite a stand-alone
>> system (which it is quite much, btw), so that you could stress test
>> your binary installation or current setup with it.
>> Of cource this is just IMHO.
>> BR, Jani
>> Jani Averbach
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Received on Fri Feb 11 23:29:51 2005