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RE: Victory - built subversion from RH9 source rpm!

From: <scohen_at_javactivity.org>
Date: 2005-02-11 23:05:51 CET

> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: Re: Victory - built subversion from RH9 source rpm!
> From: "Christopher Ness" <chris@nesser.org>
> Date: Fri, February 11, 2005 11:26 am
> To: users@subversion.tigris.org
> On Fri, 2005-11-02 at 07:53 -0600, Steve Cohen wrote:
> > Christopher Ness wrote:
> > > I just saw red flags shooting up. ;)
> > >
> > > I think redhat uses the "wheel" group as the admin group. I wouldn't
> > > want to elevate my daily account to be a group member of root.
> > >
> > Further, but damn it all. I wanted this to be a discussion of how SVN
> > packages itself to the world, and it's turning into you're a moron
> > because you do this or that as root.
> I don't think you are a moron. I probably would have fumbled through
> the power set of the same steps you took trying to solve this problem.

I really didn't think you were. Sorry if I appeared to take offense.

> > Have the subversion devs set minimal platform guidelines and stuck to
> > them? I should not have had to install Fedora packages over RH 9.0 just
> > to run subversion because that's what some developer has installed. Or
> > if I should, the subversion team should announce that RH 9.0 is not
> > going to be supported.

> The minimal platform guideline, as I understand it, is the source code.
> Any packages, or binaries are a contribution from those outside
> subversion and cannot be controlled any more than the Internet itself.

Well, subversion now requires some particular revision level of Apache.
Is anyone saying that tomorrow, subversion developers should refrain
from grabbing onto some hot new feature of Apache without a really good
reason? Not keeping a control on this process means you constantly run
the risk of disenfranchising a group of OS users without even knowing

For example, Jakarta-Commons-Net limits itself to APIs presently in jdk
1.2. (Up until last year it was jdk 1.1). In spite of the fact that
there are cool features in later JDKs that would make development
easier. Why can't subversion have the same level of self-discipline?
Or does it? At some point you're going to have to make such choices.
When is the best time?

> I agree you should not have had to do those things.
> That is the fault of RedHat (and other package creators), not
> Subversion.
> Perhaps it was caused by the switch from RH9 to the FC line (2.6 kernel,
> restructuring of the file system ie. /media, etc), but more likely by
> the discontinuation of support (new packages) for that version of the
> distribution.
> Sorry, I didn't mean to inflame you, just trying to help.
> Chris

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