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Re: I miss ... simplicity

From: Greg Goodrich <ggoodrich_at_medinotes.com>
Date: 2004-09-27 20:48:16 CEST

While tags are not exactly the same as labels in SourceSafe, I think
they adequately implement the same functionality. A label in SourceSafe
is just a mechanism to preserve the contents of the repository (or a
portion of it) at a given point in time or state, which tags do quite
nicely. The only thing I can come up with that is different is that you
can "relabel" in SourceSafe, effectively altering the original. I
believe that in subversion you would be creating either a new tag or
creating a historical event inside the original tag (versioning within a
tag). I don't really think that this is a shortcoming so much as it is
something to be considered when facing that circumstance.

As for pvcs, I used it enough, years ago, to decide that it wasn't
worthy of more of my time (just MNSHO).

Mark Phippard wrote:

>"Bulgrien, Kevin" <Kevin.Bulgrien@TriPointGlobal.com> wrote on 09/24/2004
>05:06:32 PM:
>>Will consider it, or maybe even will find I can retract the
>>simplicity statement after a while...
>>I was not so much making a point about SVN as I was about
>>the ongoing thread where there is obviously a hunger on the
>>part of some for simplicity, and hoped maybe we could remember
>>what all has irked us about hmm... now who was it? Jekyl or
>>Hyde? It seemed the level of "its not the SVN way" replies
>>was on the rise, and it gave me a shudder... and I actually
>>found myself thinking CVS wasn't as dead as I might have
>>been tempted to think... I'll go back to lurking until
>>I can contribute something with a bit (lot) more meat.
>I think you misunderstand the position of those of us that you see
>defending the "SVN way". There have been many messages saying "SVN cannot
>do X.Y.Z" so we need CVS-style tags or labels. These have all then been
>shown to be incorrect and can be accomplished in SVN. That was then
>followed up, with an "I still do not like it and want CVS-style tags or
>labels" type response. The rest is just trying to determine if there is
>some real need there or people just do not like the implementation. At
>some point, everyone has to understand that there are design decisions
>behind SVN. Some people will like them, some will not. When someone does
>not like them, we then have to try to ascertain whether there is a
>solution or whether that person has to make a decision if they can live
>with it.
>As an example, if you want a decentralized, changeset-based system, you
>would probably be better off using SVK or arch then complaining about the
>Subversion design, as that just wasn't the intent.
>I am not against having labels, I just haven't seen anyone really propose
>anything. Pointing out that the feature exists in other product doesn't
>help any more than someone pointing out that the feature exists in
>Subversion. I suppose it actually helps even less, since some people
>might not have realized it existed in Subversion.
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