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Re: geekyness and ESR's recent tome

From: Erik Huelsmann <e.huelsmann_at_gmx.net>
Date: 2004-03-02 21:40:37 CET


> I want to make it clear that I think Subversion is mostly just fine,
> especially for such an early release that needs so much recent other
> code.

Thank you.

> But all the knee-jerk macho reactions to GrayGeek's original post
> worry me. It's that kind of attitude that makes open source software
> such a notorious pain in the ass to use.

Then could you explain to me why it is that it is completely normal to you
that he starts yelling at everybody they are assholes to put their spare time
into this project and can't even come up with a working installer. But that
it is not normal for me to find him an asshole for it? As I pointed out
earlier, there would have been absolutely no problem if he'd asked nicely. I'm here
(in *all* the spare time I have) to hear about these problems. I expect to
be respected and not to be called a jerk for trying to help. It's not the
Subversion project which is a pain.

> Try to be more empathic of
> people who don't have as much kung fu, free time, or patience.
So what about *my* free time?! I am patient, but I expect manners. Which is
*not* too much to ask.

> Specifically, I wish the reaction had been something like, "You're
> right, it's often a pain to install. Please try to find one thing that
> would have made your experience easier, and we'll stick it in the tree."
> Instead he got, "It's not Subversion that's broken; you're broken."
Which is what he would have gotten if he hadn't started out as he did.



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