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Re: Best client interface

From: Christopher Brown <christopher_at_calligrafix.com>
Date: 2004-01-22 10:28:14 CET

TortoiseSVN (the current version) seems to do a remove/delete operation when
you rename a file, instead of using Subversion's superior "move" command.
This is a shame, as it's one of the drawbacks with CVS that SVN was intended
to solve...

I'm having a hell of a time finding a fully working and usable integration
into the following IDEs :

- IntelliJ IDEA 4.0 (EAP)
- Visual Studio

OK, for the latter, there's AnkhSVN, but development seems to lag a fair bit
behind subversion itself, and Visual Studio.NET just is awful (you can
easily version a .NET project as long as you don't use VStudio, which
creates tons of crap for its own use, without which it just complains). For
IntelliJ idea, there's svnup which just causes IDEA 4 to throw exceptions,
and JSVN which compiles but doesn't appear to do anything.

I agree that IDE integration seems superficial: why not just version it
using the command line or tortoise or whatever? Well, IDEA does lots of
useful refactoring operations (that restructure your codebase, by moving
files and updating references)... it's a nightmare to do a refactor, then
make sure that these changes are thereafter correctly reflected in SVN's
working copy.

- Chris

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bryan Simmons" <bznutz_is_king@yahoo.com>
To: "'Jeffrey Mcmanus'" <jeffreyp@well.com>
Cc: <users@subversion.tigris.org>; <jamesoverholser@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 7:47 PM
Subject: RE: Best client interface

> Aye, the 'ol booze-in-the-desk trick. Works every
> time (except when it
> doesn't).
> I actually sometimes resort to using a blow-gun with
> valium-tipped darts
> to keep their anger in check.
>
> But seriously, I love the Tortoise line of client
> apps. I just wanted
> to make sure Tortoise was the way to go.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Bryan Simmons
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffrey Mcmanus [mailto:jeffreyp@well.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2004 2:35 PM
> To: Bryan Simmons
> Cc: users@subversion.tigris.org
> Subject: Re: Best client interface
>
>
> Depends on what angers them. Too much complexity? Not
> enough control?
> The
>
> fact that you have the combination of an easy GUI and
> a powerful
>
> command-line interface should make anybody happy. For
> those who still
>
> aren't satisfied, may I suggest you permit your team
> to keep small
> flasks
>
> of liquor in their desks? I've found that drinking on
> the job really
> helps
>
> me control my anger (except for those times when it
> exacerbates it).
>
>
>
> I've been using SVN daily since September for simple
> file replication
>
> between home and work and self-bonehead-proofing and
> I've been able to
> do
>
> everything I need from TortoiseSVN except for one or
> two things that I
>
> needed to resort to the command line for, and those
> were no big deal.
>
>
>
> Jeffrey
>
>
>
> On Wed, 21 Jan 2004, Bryan Simmons wrote:
>
>
>
> > MessageWhat is the best client interface? I've
> tried TortoiseSVN and
> > the web interface. I prefer tortoise over the web.
>
> > I have a bunch of really cranky programmers. What
> will give them the
> > most power yet not be so cryptic as to anger them?
>
> >
>
> >
>
> > Regards,
>
> >
>
> > Bryan Simmons
>
> > Network Systems Engineer
>
> > General Physics
>
> > 410.379.3710
>
> > bsimmons@genphysics.com
>
> >
>
> >
>
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