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Re: Making revision graphs easier to read

From: Simon Large <simon.tortoisesvn_at_googlemail.com>
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 2008 10:44:27 +0100

2008/9/2 Glenn <oznelg_at_yahoo.com>:
> I've just started to use TortoiseSVN so even though the revision
> graphs are relatively new and users must have been struggling without
> them for a long time, from my point of view they are and always
> have been part of TortoiseSVN. As such they are very helpful and
> could use a few tweaks to make them even more helpful.
> 1. The manual needs _pictures_ of each of the types of revision
> graph nodes. Verbal descriptions are ok but a picture is worth...

OK, I'll see what I can do.

> 2. It seems that there are various combinations of icons and node
> shapes. The pictures in the icons don't seem to be mentioned at
> all in the documentation. For example, one of these
> icons shows a pencil. What does
> it indicate? Searching for "pencil" in the manual brings no hits.
> Again, showing all the combinations of shapes & icons
> or two separate sections: one
> showing shapes with descriptions, and another showing icons with
> descriptions might do the job. The "Icon Overlays" dictionary in the
> documentation is a good example of this kind of thing.

I may need some help with the descriptions on this one. Stefan^2?

> 3. Furthermore each node has a color. What do the colors mean?
> Ok, while researching something else I just stumbled on the answer
> in the Settings -> Color screen. I suggest the documentation for
> this screen have two subsections titled, "Status and Action Colors"
> and "Revision Graph Node Colors." That way searching for "Revision
> Graph" will bring up this section (currently the only reference to
> "revision graph" is in the screenshot which is, of-course, not
> searchable. I also suggest adding a sentence to the "Revision
> Graph Nodes" section that says you can look up and control the
> colors for different types of nodes using the Settings -> Colors
> screen.

Good point.

> 4. Maybe some text could be added to the box that appears when you
> roll the mouse over each revision graph node. It could
> say something like Tip Node, added/deleted/renamed node, initial branch node, etc.

One for Stefan/Stefan^2

> 5. When you use the right-drag "move versioned files here" command
> the resulting file has a revision graph that shows a branch node.
> This is not consistent with the description of this command in the "Commit the parent folder" caution box in the "Moving files and folders".
> It says, "moves are done as delete followed by add." Given that the
> branch node appears there must be a _copy_ involved? Is the display
> of the destination node in the revision graph correct to label it as
> a branch? I guess svn makes no distinction between copying and
> branching so this is ok although I wonder why the "move versioned files
> here" command doesn't use the underlying svn move command instead of
> the copy followed by add which it seems to use.

SVN does not support true renames, and the svn command line client
also does a copy and delete. You are correct that the 'delete followed
by add' description is misleading. It should be 'svn copy followed by

> I hope you find these comments helpful. I used ClearCase for many years
> with code with lots of branches and merges. I relied heavily on their
> revision graphs so I guess I have high standards. I really like TortoiseSVN and hope my contributions can help make it really solid.

Thanks for your input. Comments and suggestions are always welcome :-)


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