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Re: Status information -- needs a better solution

From: Stefan Küng <tortoisesvn_at_gmail.com>
Date: 2006-02-02 20:13:33 CET

Douglas Pearson wrote:
> We're actively evaluating SVN and its clients for our business and
> Tortoise looks excellent in every regard except for what seems to us its
> rather absurd approach to status information.

What you call here 'absurd' it the key component of TSVN. If you don't
like it, please use another client and don't insult us and the many many
hours we spent working on this project.

> The "new" solution of having the TSVNCache process crawling slowly round
> the file system updating the status icons as it goes seems practically
> useless to us as this means there is no way to know when status
> information is actually correct (except for leaf nodes in the folder
> tree). It's a bit like having the speedometer in your car always
> showing a value with the promise that "sometimes this is how fast you're
> actually going".

For me, it's pretty accurate.

> The price for collecting this inaccurate is a process that's always
> running and consuming 5-20MB of RAM.

Wow! A process that's consuming about 1% of CPU and 5-20MB RAM! Call the
Just open up the task manager and check the many processes on your
system. For most of them, you don't even know what they're for, but they
still use more CPU and RAM than the TSVN cache.

> Presumably many people don't share our reaction or the situation would
> have changed, but can we suggest a simple solution:

Ok, you still have to learn a lot.
First of all, what makes you think your solution would be simple? You
don't know anything about TSVN, its userbase or the code. So how can you
make such an assumption? Can you even begin to imagine what it would
take to implement that? Or deal with the whole userbase later on because
of that change?

> a) Allow for the status crawler to be disabled completely (so status
> icons would only be shown for leaf nodes in the tree and nowhere
> else--perhaps just an icon to show that a folder was under SVN management).

Check the settings dialog: you can exclude any path you want from
showing the overlay icons. If you then remove the TSVNCache.exe file
from the TSVN installation folder, you don't have to worry about the
cache anymore.

> b) Provide an explicit "status" command on the context menu to run "svn
> status" and display the results.

Ever heard or tried "check for modifications"?

> This would remove the TSVNCache process hit and status information would
> always be correct (if less complete).
> Any chance of this happening?

Next time, if you really want something in TSVN, make sure you don't
insult the whole project with your mail. It really hurt me.


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