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Re: Donations for TortoiseSVN

From: Adrian Buehlmann <adrian_at_cadifra.com>
Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:34:43 +0200

On 16.09.2010 17:56, Stefan Küng wrote:
> On 16.09.2010 17:01, Thomas Hruska wrote:
>> On 9/16/2010 3:24 AM, Lübbe Onken wrote:
>>> Stefan wrote:
>>>
>>> 2010/9/15 Stefan Küng<tortoisesvn_at_gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Yesterday, I received an email from PayPal with the subject "PayPal
>>>> appeal denied".
>>>
>>>
>>> Crazy,
>>> I have absolutely no idea what to do there. Contacting Heise sounds good to
>>> me. They have a lot of experience in dealing with things like these. And I'm
>>> pretty sure Paypal doesn't like to be featured in the monthly "Attention
>>> Customer" article :)
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> - Lübbe
>>
>> I've heard about these sort of stories before involving locked accounts
>> - in these cases, PayPal appears to makes arbitrary decisions without
>> rhyme or reason (similar to Apple, Inc).
>>
>> If you don't have non-profit status in the U.S. and were bypassing the
>> fees for donations - I seem to recall that was an option in the account
>> settings - then PayPal was probably in their right to deactivate the
>> account. That is, just because SourceForge has non-profit status does
>> not mean they can impart that status to other people or projects.
>
> Actually, Sourceforge and PayPal made a big announcement about this when
> they started the project donations. And PayPal even advertised the use
> for exactly this.
> If they want to change that, they have to first adjust their TOS and
> *then* they can start screwing with people, but not before.
>
>> However, if you want to determine that for certain, you'll need a
>> lawyer. If you set the non-profit status on your account, I would try
>> to make restitution by offering to pay the fees they are owed, with
>> reasonable interest, to change the account status and reopen the account.
>>
>> If you want the public eye on this or simply can't get PayPal to
>> communicate with you, you could try getting your story onto
>> Consumerist.com. If your story gets on there:
>>
>> A) It typically results in public embarrassment and humiliation for the
>> company in question - PayPal in this case.
>
> PayPal has to be used to that by now, I don't think they would care that
> much :)
>
>> B) Stories on Consumerist almost always get resolved favorably ASAP by
>> whatever company is being humiliated. Usually because Consumerist
>> suddenly appears in the top 10 search results for that business on
>> Google - Consumerist has serious Google power.
>>
>>
>> TSVN is a big open source project. Everyone in software development has
>> heard of this project and likely uses it. There are probably some
>> PayPal developers here who use it and likely know who to contact within
>> the company to resolve this issue - therefore, another possible option
>> is to hold the next version hostage until PayPal fixes this issue
>> amicably. That really should be a last-resort "solution" though.
>
> If PayPal devs use TSVN, I have an idea on how to strike back:
> * find out all domain names that are registered for them
> * add a little code to TSVN which would pop up a dialog with some nasty
> text and refuse to connect to those domains
> :)

Block IP ranges of PayPal (and affiliated companies) on your web server.

But I guess they own a lot of blocks.

<paste>

NetRange: 64.4.240.0 - 64.4.255.255
CIDR: 64.4.240.0/20
OriginAS:
NetName: PAYPAL-1
NetHandle: NET-64-4-240-0-1
[snip]
OrgTechRef: http://whois.arin.net/rest/poc/EBAYN-ARIN

</paste>

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