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RE: Shipping Subversion binaries with TortoiseSVN installer?

From: Trent Nelson <tnelson_at_onresolve.com>
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:21:54 +0000

> Simon Large wrote:
> 2009/1/23 Trent Nelson <tnelson_at_onresolve.com>:
> > At the time of writing, the latest version of TortoiseSVN is
> > 1.5.6, built against Subversion 1.5.5. The latest installer
> > available from tigris.org is 1.5.3. Sure, they're binary
> > compatible, but they may not be bug compatible, which can be
> > problematic when supporting thousands of users.
>
> 1.5.5 is certainly available here:
> http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/

Oh, I didn't mean that there weren't 1.5.5 installers available
for Windows -- there certainly are. I was referring specifically
to the tigris.org installers lagging behind the current version.

The problem I have with the Collab.Net installer is that it doesn't
include the same set of binaries as the tigris.org one; svnmucc.exe
is missing, for example. The directory structure is completely
different too. Given that we've already got hundreds of developers
using the tigris.org package, it's just not worth trying to use a
different installer.

> > And, well, you build Subversion when you build TortoiseSVN
> > anyway. You already ship all the libsvn* libraries, APR and
> > OpenSSL dependencies in %PROGRAMFILES%\TortoiseSVN\bin.
>
> Well those are all dependencies for TSVN. svn*.exe is not.

Well that's sort of my point. They're not dependencies, the world
keeps on spinning even though you don't ship them.

However, it wouldn't take much effort to include them, and if you
did, it would be supremely convenient -- if I want Subversion on
Windows, I just install TortoiseSVN. I don't need to go digging
around for a suitable Subversion installer as well.

> > What are your thoughts on shipping the svn*.exe binaries as
> > well?
>
> I think probably not as the tools are readily available elsewhere.
> Does svn include TSVN in its Windows distribution?

Hmmmm. Neither of these points come close to refuting the arguments
I'm trying to make *for* their inclusion, so I guess I'm not arguing
my point well enough.

I'll try a different angle: would you consider it if I were to provide
patches? (Just trying to gauge whether or not it's an "Absolutely no
way, for reasons X, Y, Z.", or a "Meh, not really bothered either way,
if you want to send patches we'll consider it.".)

        Trent.

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