Re: Tortoise SVN Ignore Usability

Thomas Eyde wrote:
> On 6/21/06, Stefan Küng <tortoisesvn@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > 1. I don't want to delete them. I need them locally, but not in the
>> > repository.
>>
>> Copy the files in question to another place or another name. Delete
>> them. Commit the deletion. Update your working copy. Rename/Move the
>> copies of your deleted files back.
>> But usually, such files are created automatically, so you just could
>> delete them and let the IDE/whatever-Tool you use recreate them.
>
> That isn't exactly user-friendly, is it?

I never said it was user friendly. It's just the way it is.

>> > 2. I have to remember to ignore them some time later.
>>
>> You also can ignore those files right away. They won't be really ignored
>> as long as they're versioned. But as soon as you remove those files from
>> version control, the 'new' files will be ignored.
>
> That's the point: As long as the file appears not ignored, the ignore
> action appears broken.

But you *know* what you've done.

>> > 1. Let the source controlled file be ignorable. Tortoise would delete
>> > it from the repository, then ignore it. If the delete part sounds
>> > dangerous, ask the user for a confirmation.
>>
>> Not in the realm of TSVN. That's a request for the Subversion team.
>
> I disagree. Does Tortoise really have to map Subversion functions
> one-to-one?

Well, that's your right (to disagree) :)

Let me try to explain why TSVN *must* map the Subversion functions
one-to-one:

* TSVN is a Subversion client (I hope you knew that)
* Ignoring of files is implemented in the Subversion library
* Even if TSVN would ignore files itself, it wouldn't help: As soon as
you execute a Subversion function (e.g. commit/update/merge/...), that
Subversion function doesn't know about the 'feature' in TSVN and doesn't
ignore the file.

So you see: we simply *can't* ignore files on our own - because
Subversion doesn't.

Stefan

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