Re: [OT] Turtle

Steve Williams wrote:
> To Whom It May Concern,
>
> We recently became aware of your community project entitled Turtle, a
> rich client interface for Microsoft's Team Foundation Server (TFS)
[snip]

Thanks a lot for that letter. I'd like to change just a few little
things in it. So here's my suggestion, heavily based on yours:

Subject: Project name and logo (turtle)

To Whom It May Concern,

We recently became aware of your community project entitled Turtle, a
rich client interface for Microsoft's Team Foundation Server (TFS)
source code control system. You may or may not be aware of two
pre-existing projects providing rich clients for source code control
systems. These two projects are TortoiseCVS
(http://www.tortoisecvs.org/) and TortoiseSVN
(http://tortoisesvn.tigris.org/), both freely available and widely used
on Microsoft Windows PCs around the world. TortoiseCVS is a Microsoft
Windows Explorer shell extension for managing local working copies for
source code stored in a CVS repository. TortoiseSVN was started with
some ideas and shell extension code from TortoiseCVS, but has since
become the predominant GUI client for the Subversion source code control
system (http://subversion.tigris.org/).

Both TortoiseCVS and TortoiseSVN have been distributed freely for many
years, and are in wide use around the world. TortoiseCVS has had almost
1.4 million downloads from SourceForge since 2002, and TortoiseSVN has
had the same (1.4 million) in just one year on SourceForge. Both
projects are older than that, but it gives a clear view of the
popularity of these two clients.

The potential confusion arises from both the name (Turtle compared to
Tortoise) and the use of a green turtle logo drawn in a cartoon style.
Both TortoiseCVS and TortoiseSVN use a green tortoise logo drawn in a
cartoon style. Some users even refer to those programs as "the turtle
for CVS" or "the turtle for SVN/Subversion".

We believe that the use of the name Turtle and the green turtle logo for
your source code control client interface may be confusing for the
public. It would be desirable for your project to make itself distinct
from these two projects by adding a "TF" or "TFS" to your name and logo
to indicate clearly which version control system your project is used for.

Thank you for your consideration in this matter.

TortoiseSVN developers and users.

Stefan

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