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Re: [TSVN] Other File Managers and Alternative Options

From: Thomas Hruska <thruska_at_cubiclesoft.com>
Date: 2005-10-07 18:22:50 CEST

Simon Large wrote:
> Cory Burkhardt wrote:
>> I recall reading that TortoiseSVN worked with other file managers
>> besides windows explorer. What are these file managers and how would
>> we install TortoiseSVN to integrate into these file managers and NOT
>> windows explorer?
> No can do. It always works in explorer, and can work in some other file
> managers as well.
>> We are looking to use subversion with our development projects, but we
>> do not want to force everybody to install TortoiseSVN in a way that
>> the TortoiseSVN menus come up EVERYWHERE in the windows filesystem.
>> We would like to be able to somehow limit the menus to displaying only
>> when we are working on our development projects. We don't want to
>> clutter up the explorer menus everywhere else. So, if we could
>> install TortoiseSVN in a way that it only integrated into another file
>> manage and not windows explorer, that would serve us well.
>> Alternatively, if there were a way to restrict the subversion menus to
>> appearing only within certain directories in the filesystem, that
>> would work as well. Or if there were a way to turn the menus on or
>> off so that they appear only when we are working on development
>> projects and we have explicitly enabled them, that would be acceptable
>> too.
>> If none of these options are available, then I don't think I will be
>> able to convince my colleagues to use the TortoiseSVN system because
>> they only work on the development projects part time. Does anybody
>> have any recommendations?
> I don't see the problem. If you right click on a non-versioned folder
> you will see only 2 entries in the context menu: TortoiseSVN and
> Checkout. You can even make the Checkout entry go away (in the settings
> dialog) so there is only 1 entry. And that is all the evidence you will
> see that TSVN is even there.
> Only when you right click in a *versioned* folder will you see the
> fuller TSVN context menu. Isn't that exactly what you are asking for?
> Have you tried using it at all yet?
> Simon

Once you have tried it, you will see why TSVN has to show up everywhere.
  The "Import..." option is how you get your initial repository set up.
  However, once it is set up, it is kind of tacky to have it there, but
you get used to it - and then your fellow employees will start doing
crazy things with it you probably haven't thought of yet...such as
versioning Excel files and Word documents. TSVN will really only get
slightly "in the way" if your colleagues use the right-click menu
exclusively for every task in explorer.

If TSVN doesn't suit your needs, you can always pay for version control
software. There are plenty of (expensive) commercial options: Team
Source (Beta), SourceGear Vault, SourceSafe, etc. Or you could write a
GUI for Subversion (upon which TSVN is based) that has the look-and-feel
you are after (probably a SourceSafe/SourceGear look-and-feel). If you
ask nicely, Stefan might even let you swipe TSVN's dialogs, icons,
overlays, and relevant sections of the source code for the project.
IMO, every organization with more than 10 developers on staff should
have at least one person dedicated at any given time to open source
development. Rotating each developer through that allows them "cool
down" time after that last harrowing release cycle.

Thomas Hruska
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Received on Fri Oct 7 18:23:31 2005

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