Hallo Stefan!
Stefan Küng schrieb:
> 1. Many people are lazy  [...]
Oh, I like arguments stating that automation has to compensate laziness 
talking of version control. :-)
 > [...] and just delete files in explorer, without
> using the "remove" command from the context menu
Well, that's OK.
Then, why not propose that "People are lazy and just create files in 
explorer, without using the "add" command from the context menu"?
But the former (deletion) is much more serious than the latter! I don't 
get the point why the former must be automatically and the latter must 
be manual.
> 2. People insisted that those entries are checked by default
OK, I can understand that there are applications where this behavior 
might be A Good Thing, but why not make it configurable? Working in 
certified environments doesn't allow such lazy-people-fault-propagation 
automatism.
> 3. If a file is missing, you don't need it anymore [...]
You clearly presume a lot about specific working processes that IMHO 
doesn't apply to _all_ processes.
 > [...]- so why leave it
> in working copies of others? That just will lead to broken builds.
Deletion of a local file is one thing. But I cannot see why _automatic_ 
selection for removal from the repository is the logical consequence! 
You can say the same for (3) about added files.
> The real question you should ask yourself: why do you have a
> *generated* file under version control???
Think about processes where you use version control not only for proving 
who did what and to follow progress etc, but also for versioning the 
builds. What if a customer reports an error using a *very old* release 
of my product? Of course I have to keep the build as well to make sure 
that I can reproduce the error using exactly the same version he has. In 
"open source"-style (and most of commercial) applications the developer 
usually answers to bug reports of old versions "Well, you use a _very_ 
old version. Download the current release and try to reproduce the 
fault, then come back again and report it so we can replay it using the 
current build. Thank you, bye." Good for such a project, and I like most 
of them and get their point. But if you do business with TSVN (is this 
allowed? ;-)) you have to assure that _you_ can replay the error in the 
customer's environmental setup and not force him to upgrade just for 
reporting an error.
Of course, you can take the built files and manually create some kind of 
versioned directory keeping some released versions of this file. But - 
heh! - we already have version control (usually for more than a reason), 
why develop an old-style pseudo-versioning system in parallel in the 
file system? The best place to keep versions of builds is, again, in a 
repository, and in most cases it's A Good Thing to put/leave it in the 
build directory.
Think of it. I would not keep the .o, .dvi, .ps intermediate/temporary 
files in the repository, just the resulting output, and I would commit 
it only if I want (this is process dependent, of course).
So, bottom line: Do you consider a switch for enabling/disabling this 
behavior or do you just laugh at my point?
- Matthias
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Received on Fri Sep 30 14:07:21 2005