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Re: svn.haxx.se is going away

From: Daniel Sahlberg <daniel.l.sahlberg_at_gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2020 15:52:02 +0100

Den ons 25 nov. 2020 kl 07:22 skrev Greg Stein <gstein_at_gmail.com>:

> On Thu, Nov 12, 2020 at 10:47 AM Daniel Sahlberg <
> daniel.l.sahlberg_at_gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Den tors 5 nov. 2020 kl 15:31 skrev Julian Foad <julian_at_foad.me.uk>:
>>
>>> Main point: Thanks to everyone helping this preservation effort.
>>>
>>> > * updating the 63+87 links in the site and source to point to links
>>> hosted on ASF hardware
>>> >
>>> Observation: s/hardware/domain/. While the ASF has long promoted "on our
>>> own hardware", the more critical and often under-valued key to keeping
>>> control of one's Internet assets is "on our own domain name". That's
>>> assumed in this context, but something to keep in mind elsewhere.
>>>
>>
>> Agreeing with Julian's point on "on our own domain name", however this is
>> as it is. If we can get an agreement regarding keeping svn.haxx.se
>> pointing to a server where, at least, the old mailing list archive is
>> available then we would be better off.
>>
>> Could ASF provide this server space (basically a VirtualHost)? The
>> archive is about 6.5 GB so it is not a huge amount.
>>
>
> Well, svn-qavm.a.o already exists, and DShahaf has already moved content
> there. I think the larger concern is if a "redirect mapping" server were
> stood up to capture svn.haxx.se clicks and redirect them, then to ...
> where?
>
> In INFRA-20213, we noted that mail-archives.a.o is going away. Our end
> goal is lists.a.o, so that is where the content needs to be migrated.
>
> We (Infra) have a lot of issues with loading archival data onto lists.a.o.
> We have a bunch of it, there are permalink issues, and it is going to a
> long slog. So there is also the issue for the svn community to determine
> whether it wants to fill the gap or maybe throw in some volunteer infra
> time to help sort through our backlog. (access to archival messages has
> generally been lower priority; volunteers welcome)
>
> No issues on the storage. It's all about servicing up a landing page for
> $oldHaxxLink.ยด
>

Wouldn't the easiest way be to just serve up the old HTML pages (that has
been generated from the mbox:es by hypermail)? Then we won't need to
consider permalinks, redirects, etc. There would be some duplicate storage
but a lot less time required to set it up. No need to have it updated with
recent mails, just put a note that mails newer than [some date] can be
found at lists.a.o.

As for the question in your other mail (the reply to Daniel Shahaf)
regarding the desire to keep the URLs. My initial question to Daniel
Stenberg was if they would consider CNAME:ing svn.haxx.se to my server and
he seemed ok with that, however we have not reached a formal agreement. I
assume it would be even easier for him to CNAME it to a server provided by
the ASF.

Kind regards,
Daniel Sahlberg
Received on 2020-11-25 15:52:42 CET

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