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Re: svn.haxx.se is going away

From: Daniel Shahaf <d.s_at_daniel.shahaf.name>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2020 14:22:23 +0000

Daniel Sahlberg wrote on Thu, 05 Nov 2020 11:16 +0100:
> Den ons 4 nov. 2020 kl 22:32 skrev Nathan Hartman <hartman.nathan_at_gmail.com
> >:
>
> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2020 at 3:32 PM Mark Phippard <markphip_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just a general fyi ... I went to https://svn.haxx.se/ today to search
> > the lists and noticed there is a banner on the site saying it is going
> > offline forever soon.
> > >
> > > I am not sure what the ramifications will be as I know there are a lot
> > of historical links in the docs and site but I guess it is what it is.
> >
> > Daniel (danielsh) has been trying to get Infra to import the material
> > from pre-2009 (pre-migration to ASF) into lists.apache.org to avoid
> > losing the archives from the earliest period of development, which
> > arguably contain some of the most important development information.
> >
> > See the discussion here:
> >
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r97c9c5208af706b067fd8e67a7cbe79b37255958bb087bf699b722f8%40%3Cdev.subversion.apache.org%3E
> >

And https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-20213

> > Possibly it's still mirrored at home.apache.org but I can't check at the
> > moment.
> >
> > Nathan
> >
>
> Would it be considered a good thing if we manage to keep svn.haxx.se
> around? Even if Infra would get the old lists imported (I don't know what's
> holding them back), there are a bunch of references to the archives in the
> source (63 if I'm counting correctly), and in the website (87).
>

Those in the website should be covered by
site/publish/.message-ids.tsv. (See site/tools/ for the generating
scripts.)

The logic for converting the message-ids into URLs is embedded in [1]
(which I have tried to make discoverable, [2], but that seems to have
regressed, and I'm ENOTIME to chase it).

[1] https://svn.apache.org/repos/infra/infrastructure/trunk/projects/asf-generate-mail-archives-link
[2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-19422

> I have reached out to Daniel Stenberg and he seems willing to discuss to
> point the domain name to another server. I could probably volunteer to keep
> the site alive, provided there is an agreement within @Dev this is a good
> thing. Or is it better to just do the job and update the sources and
> website?

We should keep old links working, if possible. Ideally, not only links
we happen to have lying around, but also other links (e.g., in people's
non-public branches of https://github.com/apache/subversion).

There's more than one way to preserve links (redirecting old URLs to
new URLs for the same messages; keeping the site online but not
updating; keeping the site online and updating, on ASF hardware, e.g.,
svn-qavm.a.o; etc.). Any and all assistance would be most welcome!

> (Daniel S... seems to be a popular name!)

It is, yes. And then there are people like danderson, who aren't named
"Daniel" but still get in the way of tab-completing Daniels ☺

Cheers,

Daniel
Received on 2020-11-05 15:22:38 CET

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