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Re: Lists history (was: Re: commit failed due to "backwards-sliding source views" - what do I do?)

From: Nathan Hartman <hartman.nathan_at_gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 2020 10:02:39 -0400

[Moving from users@ to dev@...]

On Tue, Apr 28, 2020 at 1:17 PM Daniel Shahaf <d.s_at_daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> Subversion moved to Apache in 2009. Neither lists.a.o nor
> mail-archives.a.o would be expected to go farther back than that.
> Before the migration, the lists were @subversion.tigris.org (except
> private@, which was svn-full-committers_at_red-bean.com), and instead of
> being part of ASF we had our own Subversion Corporation
> (see https://svn.haxx.se/org/, and the archive.org snapshots of
> subversion.org). The tigris lists used to be independently archived in
> several places, but at least two of them (tigris and gmane) have closed
> since then.

Until I looked more closely, I guess I had assumed that all of the
pre-migration data (including list archives) were brought over in the
move to ASF. Looks like some stuff was left behind.

The earliest emails, during the period of heaviest development, must
contain all sorts of gems of knowledge and design rationale that
aren't available elsewhere. So...

> It wouldn't be a bad idea to download haxx.se's archives to Apache
> hardware so we have an independent backup. In fact, Infra might even
> be willing to inject the pre-migration data into the
> mail-archives.a.o/lists.a.o archives, so we have unified archives.
> [When we migrated legal@ allowed us to add the historical release
> tarballs to archive.a.o/dist/ even though they contained LGPL
> dependency tarballs (which aren't normally allowed in Apache
> releases). In light of this, I can't imagine backfilling the lists
> would be a problem.]

+1, if it can be done, and there isn't some glaring reason not to
(such as legal), then I'm in favor of that.

Received on 2020-04-29 16:03:06 CEST

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