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Re: 1.13.x and swig-py3 (was: Re: Test failures with Python 3 (Re: PMCs: any Hackathon requests? (deadline 11 October)))

From: Johan Corveleyn <jcorvel_at_gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 19 Oct 2019 12:06:45 +0200

On Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 1:23 AM Daniel Shahaf <d.s_at_daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
>
> Yasuhito FUTATSUKI wrote on Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 23:09:19 +0900:
> > On 2019/10/16 21:12, Johan Corveleyn wrote:
> > > This makes me wonder: should that be fixed specifically on trunk, and
> > > nominated for backport to 1.13, so we can possibly claim basic support
> > > for Python 3 in our build and test processes (in at least one released
> > > version) before the end of this year?
> > >
> > > Or should we reintegrate the swig-py3 branch ASAP, and nominate *that*
> > > for backport to 1.13, so we can have Python 3 support, including swig
> > > bindings?
> >
> > I prefer the latter, as one of users :) I want to use
> > tools/hook-scripts/mailer/mailer.py with Python 3.
>
> If we want this to happen, we should first of all complete the swig-py3 branch
> and merge it to trunk.

Yes, and I think the branch is now ready for merge to trunk.

> What's not clear to me is what would happen afterwards. Is anyone proposing to
> delay 1.13.0 until swig-py3 is merged (remember that we are already more than
> halfway through the soak)? If not, how would merging swig-py3 to 1.13.x
> coexist with the premise of "no destabilizing changes in patch releases"?
> Would we have to delay merging swig-py3 to 1.13.x until January, when py2 has
> finally gone out of support?

I wouldn't postpone 1.13.0 for it. I suppose the best way is that we
propose it for backport for 1.13.1, shortly after 1.13.0 has been
released.
Also: the swig-py3 branch does not break our support for py2. With
that branch, both py2 and py3 swig-bindings can be built and run fine.

> What should we do about swig-py3 support in 1.12.x and 1.10.x, which are both LTS?

Only 1.10.x is LTS (and 1.9.x perhaps? But ISTR we eol'ed that). I
suppose a backport to 1.10.x would be a good idea, so we have at least
one LTS release this year that supports py3.

> Should we say anything about swig-py2 / swig-py3 in the release notes _today_,
> before 1.13.0 has been released, about our plans for 1.13.x patch releases?

I think we should mention it at least in the 1.13.0 release notes, in
the known issues section, and announce our plan to address it in
1.13.1 or something like that?

-- 
Johan
Received on 2019-10-19 12:07:20 CEST

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