On 02/12/2017 19:55, Johan Corveleyn wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 12:20 PM, Johan Corveleyn <jcorvel_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> ...
>> Motivation:
>>
>> * Make it possible to set up pages that anyone can edit, after
>> creating an account without interaction with some administrator /
>> moderator (in moinmoin, a new account needs to be activated by someone
>> with admin privileges -- too much friction).
>> - example that triggered this: let's keep a list of distributors /
>> packagers, and a list of tool vendors / integrators -- would be nice
>> if people could add themselves to such a page. Apart from that we want
>> more people to contribute to all kinds of docs / design / discussion.
> After chatting on #asfinfra (hipchat) with the experts, it seems the
> above is not an option. The "self-signup" is not well protected (no
> captcha), so creating pages with liberal permissions (anyone with an
> account can edit) is a recipe for spam. Maybe we can come up with a
> simple, pleasant workflow for new people to get added to an
> editor-group on demand, but that's about it.
Maybe this is an argument for prioritizing something on my side which
atm is WiP. It could help with the situation if it's interesting for
INFRA, but it won't be ready within the next couple of weeks (i.e.
thinking a time frame around the first half next year). Sry, can't say
more publicly about this just yet, but it might be exactly the thing
which could allow INFRA to reconsider their decision on the self-signup
restrictions.
>
>> * Faster editing / saving (moinmoin still has performance problems).
>>
>> * In general: making it easier and nicer for anyone to contribute,
>> lowering barriers, ...
>>
>> * Additional benefit: user accounts are shared between the ASF JIRA
>> and Confluence instances.
> And shared accounts are not a reality at this time either. Though
> infra are going to make this happen sometime next year (by installing
> "crowd", specific authentication service of Atlassian, enabling SSO
> accross their services coupled with it).
Good to know that they are working on a proper integration. So if that's
currently scheduled to happen next year, that'd be fine for us, I take it.
> Although the more liberal editing is not an option, I still think we
> should go forward with migrating to Confluence. For the other reasons
> (more attractive to all kinds of contributors (also non-coders), lower
> barriers, faster editing/saving, ...). Plus: in the longer term, infra
> wants to end-of-life their moinmoin service, if I understood
> correctly.
I'm still all for doing the migration, regardless of the pointed out
restrictions.
> gmcdonald will be sending me the Universal Wiki Converter tools and
> actual moinmoin pages of Subversion, so I can experiment a bit with
> it.
>
Great. Hope there's not too much work required there.
Regards,
Stefan
Received on 2017-12-02 22:34:55 CET