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Re: Giving 1.10 alpha more exposure to gather feedback

From: Johan Corveleyn <jcorvel_at_gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2017 16:58:16 +0200

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 6:35 PM, Daniel Shahaf <d.s_at_daniel.shahaf.name> wrote:
> Johan Corveleyn wrote on Tue, 15 Aug 2017 11:57 +0200:
>> Can we try to give 1.10 alpha3 a bit more exposure, in order to gather
>> more feedback? I'm thinking of:
>> - A post to users@, […]
>> - Reaching out to producers of binaries to create a 1.10-alpha3 […]
>> - Announce / ask feedback more prominently on our own website.
>> - Reach out to software that integrates SVN (e.g. IDE's) to start
>> working on 1.10 support, […]
> Just one: ideally, by the time we post to users@, alpha3 binaries will already
> be available for most libsvn_client consumers.

Hm, yes. I guess that would be best. But maybe the binary packagers
also would like a short write-up to accompany their publishing of the
1.10 alpha3.

So I'm imagining that:

1. We write some short explanation / call for testing, that we can
send to interested binary packagers (a text they can reuse when
publishing for their users / on their website).

2. We contact binary packagers and ask them if they'd like to help out
by publishing 1.10 alpha3 somewhere (clearly marked as "alpha /
unstable / cutting edge"), where they can reuse our text from 1 if
they want. We ask them to confirm it and when they'll do it.

3. We publish details on our own website, linking to the various
binary packagers that have confirmed.

4. We mail users@ with some extended version of text 1., with a link
to our own webpage and links to the various binaries that have become

5. Where possible / known, we contact other software vendors that
integrate SVN (IDE's etc) if they'd like to join the effort, and
prepare their software to handle tree conflicts using the new

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 10:00 PM, Nathan Hartman
<hartman.nathan_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> I assume alpha status means not for production use.
> The question then is how to test effectively, in a manner that
> is representative of real use
> without excessive risk to data.
> It may be helpful to include suggestions in the
> aforementioned exposure.

For the tree conflict resolution feature we're mainly interested in
client-side testing. So end-users trying the 1.10 alpha3 on a working
copy, either during their daily work (with all disclaimers about it
being only an alpha) or to try out typical scenario's where they
encounter tree conflicts. They can do a significant part of
experimentation / testing without even committing the result to their

I guess you're right: we should write up a couple of suggestions on
how users can test the alpha.

On Tue, Aug 15, 2017 at 11:37 PM, Andreas Stieger
<andreas.stieger_at_gmx.de> wrote:
> The openSUSE project has 1.10 alpha3 binaries ready for all current
> openSUSE and SUSE Linux Enterprise distributions.
> https://software.opensuse.org//download.html?project=home%3AAndreasStieger%3Abranches%3Adevel%3Atools%3Ascm%3Asvn&package=subversion
> Andreas

Great, thanks Andreas!

Received on 2017-08-17 16:58:46 CEST

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