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Re: Low level of activity

From: Branko Čibej <brane_at_apache.org>
Date: Sun, 5 Feb 2017 22:22:23 +0100

On 05.02.2017 22:02, Stefan wrote:
> On 2/5/2017 15:45, Stefan Fuhrmann wrote:
>> On 04.02.2017 17:53, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>>> I wrote the following in a thread on private@, but the issue need not be
>>> discussed confidentially:
>>>
>>> Daniel Shahaf wrote on Fri, Feb 03, 2017 at 18:05:27 +0000:
>>>> I've noticed that some threads don't happen.
>>>>
>>>> Examples:
>>>>
>>>> - stefan2 solicited reviews of his authz branch. None happened.
>>>>
>>>> - SVN-4670 was filed with a trivial patch. Nothing happened.
>>>>
>>>> What worries me isn't the reduced activity — that's to be expected —
>>>> but
>>>> the complete *lack* of activity around these and other threads. That
>>>> activity level is lower than I would expect, even taking into account
>>>> that we're now mostly volunteer-run.
>> Since more or less all committers contribute in their
>> spare time these days, not only the "intensity" of
>> interaction will go down.
>>
>> What we do see instead is that people appear to be
>> very active for a short period of time - a day or two -
>> and then become silent for a longer period of time,
>> maybe for weeks at a time. Those periods of activity
>> often don't overlap, which makes interaction harder.
>> The amount of back and forth discussion will probably
>> go down.
>>
>> I think that as a community, we need to adapt our
>> expectations / communication to that new pattern.
>> Things that might help:
>>
>> * Allow for at least 2 weeks of reaction time for
>> silent consensus etc.
>>
>> * Send an notification post to dev@ before starting
>> some larger work - people may not follow commits
>> closely anymore. Not as a vote or anything but simply
>> to keep people in the loop.
>>
>> * "Ping" a thread that you _really_ want feedback on
>> after 2+ weeks of inactivity.
>>
>> None of these need to be codified; they seem like
>> pretty common sense for a project with much more
>> asynchronism.
>>
>> -- Stefan^2.
> Wouldn't it be possible to also consider getting some
> funding/sponsorship/donations?
>
> If enough money gets donated maybe some of the existing committers could
> arrange something with their dayjobs (as in being able to work like 20%
> on SVN) and therefore be able to contribute more time on SVN than they
> can right now?
>
> Also if some specific features would be put up as examples for
> committers who would volunteer to work on a feature, that might be
> caught up by companies who are willing to pay for getting the feature
> into the subversion core (LuaJIT used that approach, for instance, quite
> successfully).

The ASF does not accept donations toward any particular project. Whilst
we might encourage companies to fund individual developers, we solicit
donations for specific features.

-- Brane
Received on 2017-02-05 22:22:33 CET

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