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Re: Efficient and effective fsync during commit

From: Branko Čibej <brane_at_wandisco.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 00:03:03 +0200

On 15.06.2015 18:24, Mark Phippard wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Branko Čibej <brane_at_wandisco.com
> <mailto:brane_at_wandisco.com>> wrote:
>
> On 15.06.2015 17:36, Ivan Zhakov wrote:
> > On 12 June 2015 at 15:11, Stefan Fuhrmann
> <stefan.fuhrmann_at_wandisco.com
> <mailto:stefan.fuhrmann_at_wandisco.com>> wrote:
> >> To be clear: You are proposing that the code on Windows
> >> is fundamentally broken (revision contents not being
> >> committed) while I think we "only" have a persistence
> >> issue with renames. Since your business depends on
> >> you being wrong, it would be in your best self-interest
> >> to go and find out ...
> >>
> >> Of course, I could apply for an MSDN subscription, wait
> >> for it be approved etc. but I think it would be fairer if you
> >> could check the Windows side of things while I try to get
> >> some answers for POSIX.
> >>
> > Am I understand you properly, that *your business* does not
> depend on
> > Windows and you just do not care about this
>
> Ahem. So ... this has gone somewhat off the straight and narrow. Let's
> leave business and self-interest out of this (all parties) and look at
> the actual problem instead.
>
> We've always sort of assumed around here that whoever had the working
> configuration/platform on hand would be more likely to be able to
> verify
> some platform-dependent edge case or other. Windows is decidedly a bit
> of a special case because, traditionally, setting up a build and test
> environment for Subversion has been horribly complicated (as I handily
> reminded myself just the other day as I was setting up a VM to get a
> Windows vote in for 1.9.0-rc2 ... and I'll happily admit part of
> the blame).
>
> Stefan, for the future, I do think it wouldn't hurt you to get
> your MSDN
> subscription and set up a build environment if you intend to make
> platform-dependent changes that can't be verified otherwise.
> That's just
> common sense. As it's also common sense for Ivan to verify such
> changes
> instead of placing all the burden on you.
>
>
> Not to go too far off-topic, but is it even true that you still need
> MSDN? I thought the compilers and build tools were available for free
> now? There is even a free version of Visual Studio that is fully
> functional.
>
> https://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/products/visual-studio-community-vs.aspx
>
> Before this was available, I recall the SDK now includes the compilers
> and that is also freely available.

Versions of compilers and Visual Studio are available for free, yes. You
still have to build a Windows machine or VM; the MSDN subscription that
is available to all ASF committers gives you the ability to do that
legally and for free.

-- Brane
Received on 2015-06-17 00:03:34 CEST

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