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Re: Auto Upgrade Behavior

From: Greg Stein <gstein_at_gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 04:47:58 -0400

I'm thinking that we ought to continue auto-upgrade for the masses,
especially given Bert's input. Much as I dislike config knobs, it seems
prudent to introduce a "disable auto-upgrade" option for large,
multi-client shops. IMO, you're tending towards sophisticated if you use
more than one svn client. In turn, I further believe that implies minority.
Let's give those users, who understand the issue, an option, and give
simplicity to all the rest.

Would that work for you?

Cheers,
-g
On Aug 26, 2012 3:38 PM, "Stefan Sperling" <stsp_at_elego.de> wrote:

> On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 02:29:45PM -0400, Greg Stein wrote:
> > On Aug 25, 2012 8:08 PM, "Branko ─îibej" <brane_at_wandisco.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 26.08.2012 00:31, Greg Stein wrote:
> > > > In the past, we used auto-upgrade because it "just worked". Most
> users
> > > > don't need or want to worry about working copy formats. They just
> want
> > svn
> > > > to work.
> > > >
> > > > I don't think we should be making things more difficult for the
> > majority in
> > > > order to help a few users who use multiple clients. That is
> backwards.
> > :-(
> > >
> > > Well, evidence appears to suggest that users who use multiple clients
> > > are in fact the majority. Hearsay evidence, but that's the only kind I
> > > see hereabouts.
> >
> > I'd call it a vocal minority. We've got millions of users. I can't see
> the
> > majority using multiple clients. Nobody runs into issues using a single
> > client, so there is no need to speak up.
>
> I keep getting these complaints often. Mostly from users I personally
> talk to during workshops, consulting, etc. Dunno how much of our user
> population they represent. However it would be nice for me and them
> if auto-upgrade was disabled by default. Because the problem would
> be solved for them, and I could spend the time during my workshops
> talking about more interesting stuff than why we auto-upgrade and
> how to avoid the pitfalls. My desire to make this changed is based
> on real user feedback. I wouldn't want to make it if these people
> didn't request it.
>
> That's where I come from. I'm trying to keep you happy too by adding
> a global config knob you can enable. I know you don't like config
> knobs either but I cannot think of any other solution to make both
> us of happy. Do you have any suggestions other than keeping auto-upgrade
> the default? Any chance of compromise?
>
Received on 2012-08-27 10:48:30 CEST

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