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Re: Format bump for 1.8?

From: Daniel Shahaf <d.s_at_daniel.shahaf.name>
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2012 21:56:46 +0100

Johan Corveleyn wrote on Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 22:19:50 +0200:
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Peter Samuelson <peter_at_p12n.org> wrote:
> > [Markus Schaber]
> >> So my personal experience tells me that multiple-client scenarios are
> >> the common case, and that the deployment strategy (only using linux
> >> distro packages, or 3-in-1 bundles like VisualSVN) can reduce that
> >> problem.
> >
> > So, we provide a pile of libraries that maintain ABI backward
> > compatibility. You can have as many different svn client apps on a
> > given system as you want, and so long as they are all using the same
> > copy of our libraries, there is no cross-version compatibility problem.
> >
> > (Of course, there's two other related issues: 1) sharing a wc across
> > two or more systems; 2) use of SVNKit. I'll ignore both for now;
> > SVNKit in particular is, and should be, Somebody Else's Problem anyway.)
> I think it's sad that there is so much antagonism against SVNKit in
> this community. With my svn user hat on, I consider SVNKit as just
> another part of the svn ecosystem. As a user, I don't really care if
> it's implemented in C, in Java or in Turbo Pascal :-), as long as it
> plays by the rules and acts like any other svn client. Besides, in our
> environment I have no choice but to use SVNKit: the svn plugin of my
> IDE (IntelliJ IDEA) only works with SVNKit.
> I think it would be beneficial for the svn ecosystem as a whole if
> this community would try to build better relations with the SVNKit
> people. Some mutual understanding certainly wouldn't hurt. I was very
> happy to see more interest by the SVNKit guys in the core project, and
> see their presence at the Berlin Hackathon (hi Dmitry :-)).

I don't think there is antagonism against svnkit here; just "they chose
not to use our APIs, so if things break because of that it's their
problem to fix and not ours".

> I guess this is theoretically possible. But as a Windows user, I
> personally wouldn't like it. This is exactly one of the things that
> annoys me every time when I'm working on e.g. Solaris: What? I can't
> have two different svn versions installed at the same time? On my
> central build server with 1000 working copies I can't just quickly
> install a 1.7 version to do some tests, while all my colleagues keep
> on running svn 1.6 for the real stuff. Gah.

Of course you can, just don't install it to the same $prefix as
everything else. On svn.apache.org we have 6 different svn

> --
> Johan
Received on 2012-07-12 22:57:30 CEST

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