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Re: Third (and probably last) alpha coming later this week

From: Greg Stein <gstein_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2011 14:14:59 -0400

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 09:44, Mark Phippard <markphip_at_gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 8:51 AM, Hyrum K Wright <hyrum_at_hyrumwright.org> wrote:
>>> We want to ship the best product possible. This mailing list is defined to
>>> be our decision-making focus. It seems incorrect to disregard a reported
>>> problem simply because (for whatever reason) an issue is not in the tracker.
>> I don't claim that we should disregard the problem.  I *do* claim that
>> we should more widely publicize blocking issues so that everybody can
>> be aware of them.

Done. It was posted to this list.

>> The greater point was that this seems to be something that various
>> people have kicking around in their heads.  We agreed in Berlin (and
>> then discussed on this list) to use the issue tracker to record
>> blocking issues.  I really don't want to be in the position of rolling
>> a possible release candidate, only to find out we're got all these
>> hidden issues that aren't being tracked in the agreed-upon public
>> manner.

Certainly, but you're not the only one to decide what will be a
release candidate. As we've seen in this thread, hidden issues will be

Is it as efficient as it could be? No. But it *works*.

> I am with Hyrum on this one.  If there are blockers people need to
> create issues for them or at least formally raise them on dev@ so that
> someone else can create an issue.  We should not be waiting for Hyrum
> to announce the plans to make a release to suddenly reveal there are
> blockers.

It happens. So we deal with it and move on. This issue *has been*
formally raised here on dev@, in this very thread. Some people just
don't like to take time away from their coding to file an issue. I
don't like to do it, and I suspect the same for Ivan. That is just the
way people work.

An issue has been filed now, for all the issue-oriented people. Done.
Process works.

My issue was with Hyrum's statement:

"Not that I can see. As per our project-wide consensus regarding
branching and releasing and release candidates and such, nothing in
the issue tracker means that there isn't a blocking issue."

To me, that reads as a casual disregard to Bert requesting that we do
NOT roll a release candidate until the issue is fixed.


Received on 2011-07-05 20:15:36 CEST

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