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Re: svn commit: r1079008 - /subversion/trunk/subversion/svnadmin/main.c

From: Stefan Fuhrmann <eqfox_at_web.de>
Date: Tue, 08 Mar 2011 22:25:32 +0100

On 08.03.2011 15:01, Stefan Sperling wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 08, 2011 at 01:46:23PM +0000, Philip Martin wrote:
>> stefan2_at_apache.org writes:
>>> Author: stefan2
>>> Date: Mon Mar 7 22:57:04 2011
>>> New Revision: 1079008
>>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1079008&view=rev
>>> Log:
>>> Set FSFS cache default size to 16 MB. This is the same default as
>>> for everybody else, namely the server processes. Thus, it should
>>> be reasonable value on the same machines.
>> 16MB may be "reasonable" for normal usage but it still has a significant
>> effect on the testsuite. The testsuite is an unusual access pattern, it
>> runs thousands of commands on small repositories. Using a 1MB cache I
>> can run the testsuite for ra_local/FSFS in 10m15s, with 16MB cache that
>> increases to 12m30s, a 20% increase. There is a similar increase when
>> testing ra_svn/FSFS using the default Linux svnserve (a threaded
>> svnserve has a shared cache so isn't affected).
>> svnserve and svnadmin both have a -M option, was there any discussion
>> about using a single letter option for this feature? This could be used
>> by the testuite to restrict the cache size, but for ra_local/FSFS
>> testing there is no way to restrict the svn client.
> Shouldn't the cache be off by default?
In http://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2011-01/0468.shtml,
it was suggested that we should keep it enabled for
the time being to weed out the issues that we may
find asap.

So, I would suggest to keep the code active to an
early beta stage to maximize exposure and then to
make -M0 the default for the release.
> We have precedence for other features like this that are strictly opt-in,
> e.g. memcached support in FSFS. I don't think we should assume that the
> new cache code is perfect and enable it by default on any repository for
> any 1.7 server. The feature has not had any exposure in the real world yet.
memcached is slightly different here as it requires
some per-repository configuration to find the servers.
I usually can't work out of the box (unless you assume
a cache server being running on localhost).
> So I think it would be better if the cache was off by default, and must be
> enabled in a configuration file. I suppose svnserve and mod_dav_svn
> configuration files would be the best location for this, because the
> purpose of the cache seems to be to speed up server operation.
> An 'svn' process has a short lifetime so the benefit of this cache
> seems dubious in that situation. I don't see any reason to even provide
> a way to turn it on there.
"svn praise" over ra_local may be the only operation
that actually benefits from fulltext or txdelta caching.
Everything else gets cached anyways.

-- Stefan^2.
Received on 2011-03-08 22:26:00 CET

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