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Re: svn commit: r1024394 - /subversion/site/publish/packages.html

From: Mark Phippard <markphip_at_gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Oct 2010 18:27:44 -0400

We have always supported CentOS, I simply had not noticed that you had
added a section for it. Given that anyone that uses CentOS knows that
it is a clone of Red Hat it seems redundant to even have that section
and I would be in favor of removing it entirely.

The answer for SuSE is more complicated. Our Linux binaries are known
to work on SuSE, Fedora, Ubuntu and Debian. All of our developers are
using one of these distros. In the past, I chose not to spam the
packages list and only include the platforms we officially qualify
with every release and officially support. We added support for SuSE
to CollabNet Subversion Edge and that is why I added it. So that part
is true.

I have a problem with "vanilla packages" and what that means. We are
providing the same plain Apache and Subversion binaries we always
have. The source code that goes into the binaries, and our build
scripts to produce them, are all provided and available online. Why
is it OK to provide these binaries with a Python script to help set
them up. but not OK to provide them with a simple web UI that does the
same? In either case the user can choose to download or not download,
and once they have downloaded to use or not use. In other words, just
as you could use our binaries without running the Python script to
configure them, you can also use our binaries without running the web
UI to configure them. I fail to see why there should be any
distinction in terms of what users can download.

The "vanilla packages" are still available. For command line client
users, they are right there on the same page. For someone wanting the
old package that includes Apache/ViewVC and Python script that is
available on link from same page "looking for previous versions".

But again, it is true that we have not claimed to officially support
SuSE with these packages.

Mark

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 5:56 PM, Hyrum K. Wright
<hyrum_wright_at_mail.utexas.edu> wrote:
> [ This is going to come off rather biased, given my affiliations, so
> I'd appreciate some additional comments. ]
>
> From http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/redhat.html, I noticed
> that CollabNet only offers downloads of CollabNet Subversion Edge for
> Centos and Suse, but not vanilla Subversion packages for those
> platforms.  I'd prefer if our packages page linked only to packages of
> Subversion, not packages of Subversion+other stuff.  Maybe that means
> we reevaluate VisualSVN on that page as well.
>
> Thoughts?  Bikesheds?
>
> -Hyrum
>
> On Tue, Oct 19, 2010 at 3:21 PM,  <markphip_at_apache.org> wrote:
>> Author: markphip
>> Date: Tue Oct 19 20:21:07 2010
>> New Revision: 1024394
>>
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1024394&view=rev
>> Log:
>> * publish/packages.html
>>
>>  (centos, suse): Add CollabNet downloads.
>>
>> Modified:
>>    subversion/site/publish/packages.html
>>
>> Modified: subversion/site/publish/packages.html
>> URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/subversion/site/publish/packages.html?rev=1024394&r1=1024393&r2=1024394&view=diff
>> ==============================================================================
>> --- subversion/site/publish/packages.html (original)
>> +++ subversion/site/publish/packages.html Tue Oct 19 20:21:07 2010
>> @@ -83,6 +83,11 @@
>>  <div class="package" style="background-image: url('/images/centos.png');">
>>
>>  <ul>
>> +<li><p><a href="http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/redhat.html">
>> +        CollabNet</a> (professionally supported and certified by
>> +       <a href="http://www.collab.net/subversion"
>> +       >CollabNet</a>)</p>
>> +</li>
>>  <li><p><a href="http://www.wandisco.com/subversion/os/downloads?type=centos">
>>         WANdisco</a> (professionally supported and certified by
>>        <a href="http://www.wandisco.com/"
>> @@ -316,6 +321,11 @@ $ make install clean</pre>
>>  <div class="package" style="background-image: url('/images/suse.png');">
>>
>>  <ul>
>> +<li><p><a href="http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/redhat.html">
>> +        CollabNet</a> (professionally supported and certified by
>> +       <a href="http://www.collab.net/subversion"
>> +       >CollabNet</a>)</p>
>> +</li>
>>  <li><p><a href="http://software.opensuse.org/search?baseproject=ALL&amp;p=1&amp;q=subversion"
>>        >OpenSUSE build service</a> (OpenSUSE and SLES, i586/x86_64)</p>
>>  </li>
>>
>>
>>
>

-- 
Thanks
Mark Phippard
http://markphip.blogspot.com/
Received on 2010-10-27 00:28:21 CEST

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