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Re: Email archives

From: Neels J Hofmeyr <neels_at_elego.de>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2009 13:45:59 +0100

[Replying to this one because Julian's original post is missing in my
mailbox due to me failing to subscribe in time]

Julian Foad wrote:
> I miss the archive URLs that we had on the bottom of dev_at_s.tigris.o
> emails. They were very useful when logging something in the issue
> tracker or digging up the history of a thread.

Indeed, those were very handy.

> The s.tigris.o archive viewer had a very good UI in the last year,

I was always and still am missing a search with sortable results (by date,
mostly).

mail-archive.com has a search term syntax for that kind of stuff.
http://www.mail-archive.com/faq.html#search

Apache seems to have no internal search at all, its browser depends on
JavaScript to show anything at all.

The markmail archive also depends heavily on JavaScript, and its search
seems to not work properly (tried to search for a subject; search term was
truncated and found no matches, with or w/o JavaScript).

So IMHO we need a mail archive that

 o Shows Threads (without breaking by month)
 o Links well between threaded/chronological view
 o Has a good way to do refined searches
 o Can display attachments properly (as links or sth., not inline)
 o Does not break when JavaScript is disabled

No mail archive mentioned so far satisfies all of them.

AFAICT, mail-archive.com scores highest on this wishlist. But it fails to
show attachments properly.

So mail-archive.com is my personal favorite. It's best for finding and
browsing ... but to see whether(!) a mail has an attachment and to download
it as a file, one needs to search for the same message on another system. :(

Still, I think mail attachments aren't that important that I would sacrifice
navigation and searchability for them...

Any other opinions?

~Neels

Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> [ sorry for the delay responding; I looked for the "ajax/" links last
> Thursday, but couldn't find them then; and just re-ran into them now ]
>
> Julian Foad wrote on Thu, 10 Dec 2009 at 10:18 -0000:
>> Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>>> When using mail-archives.apache.org I always try to remove "ajax/" from
>>> the URL, that way it's more sane for me. Don't remember exactly the
>>> reason why, though...
>> What "ajax/"?
>>
>
> The one that appears in the individual message links on pages such as
> <http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/subversion-dev/200912.mbox/browser>.
> I haven't figured out how to open a message in a new tab yet thanks to
> that thing :) (other than, that is, copy the URL manually, remove
> "ajax/", and paste it into the address bar)
>
> Daniel
>
>> - Julian
>>
>>
>>

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