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Re: svn_client_upgrade and speed

From: David Glasser <glasser_at_davidglasser.net>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 14:52:14 -0700

At the end of the day, "rewrite the client" is basically the only
interesting feature left worth adding to Subversion. The Subversion
server is basically finished; it works fine, and has reached the end
of its extensibility. People looking for exciting new models and
functionality for version control should probably look at other
systems. Rewriting the client to be less fragile is a solid goal, and
that's what Greg and Hyrum are working on... but if it takes three
years and there are no other svn releases in the meantime, I don't see
what the problem is. Subversion, nearly a decade in, is pretty stable
and basically works.

--dave

On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 11:30 PM, Listman <listman_at_burble.net> wrote:
> On Sep 12, 2009, at 3:18 AM- Sep 12, 2009, Greg Stein wrote:
>
>> As stsp notes, this is an artifact of continuing to use multiple
>> sqlite databases. Shoot ... we still haven't integrated the multiple
>> property files into the databases. That represents a *TON* more I/O
>> then our target implementation.
>>
>> Yes, you reported it a while back, and we were just as aware of it
>> at that time as now. This is a fuckton of work. If you want it
>> sooner than we are going, then jump in and help. I think you're
>> underestimating the work here, and the amount that has and is being
>> done. Speaking for myself, your comment makes my work feel
>> unappreciated.
>>
> Everyone here appreciates the work you're doing, thats a given. The
> issue is that we're trying to plan life/work/dinner etc and the 1.7
> schedule is just getting pushed out on a never-ending basis.
>
> We talked about this in February of this year.
>
> http://subversion.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=1065&dsMessageId=1183455
>
> In this discussion we'd asked the dev-team to get some performance
> improvements into 1.6 rather than pushing them out to 1.7. You told us
> to wait until 1.7 and life will be peachy
>
> and then you said this:
>
> http://subversion.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=462&dsMessageId=2373285
>
> and now todays discussion..
>
> Is the 1.7 release going to be even worse than the nightmare that was
> 1.5?
>
> My prediction from February '09 holds, if we get a *useable* 1.7
> release by February 2010 I'll be (pleasantly) surprised
>
> Again, I'm not trying to beat anyone up here, this is an open source
> project and we appreciate the work. But we're all big boys/girls here
> and if you make *very* strong statements as you did back in Feb and
> then bail someone is going to mention it.
>
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