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Re: svn_client_upgrade and speed

From: Stefan Sperling <stsp_at_elego.de>
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 2009 10:01:31 +0200

On Sat, Sep 12, 2009 at 08:30:14AM +0200, Listman wrote:
> We talked about this in February of this year.
> http://subversion.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=1065&dsMessageId=1183455
> In this discussion we'd asked the dev-team to get some performance
> improvements into 1.6 rather than pushing them out to 1.7. You told us
> to wait until 1.7 and life will be peachy
> and then you said this:
> http://subversion.tigris.org/ds/viewMessage.do?dsForumId=462&dsMessageId=2373285
> and now todays discussion..

The message you are referring to is fairly old.
It's already been mentioned several times on this list that the
time frame is likely going to be larger than the Christmas release
goal Greg formulated back then.
For example: http://svn.haxx.se/dev/archive-2009-09/0082.shtml
> Is the 1.7 release going to be even worse than the nightmare that was
> 1.5?

Only if you don't adjust your expectations :)

More seriously, sure, developers falling behind their expected
schedule is bad. But then again, making accusations from the peanut
gallery without offering any help isn't that great, either.
We all agreed that the WC rewrite was necessary for Subversion to
survive, and it was clear that something like this would make trunk
unstable or less usable for a longer period of time. By definition,
trunk is in an unreleasable state right now.

If TortoiseSVN developers (or anyone else) could provide a little help,
that would be really appreciated. We need as many hands as we can get to
accelerate the process. Greg has asked for help before, *precisely* because
he realised it will take longer. See this post for more information:

A few people have already started to submit patches for tasks listed
there, which is great! There's still lots more to do, though. We all
can still make a difference by spending one hour per week on WC-NG.
Keep in mind that most of the work is done by *two* people, Greg and
Hyrum. Well, Bert has also started to pitch in heavily, so these days
it's about three. Given this, I'm actually quite happy with the speed
things are progressing. If you track the commit mailing list you will
see that progress is being made, all the time.

So I would fully understand your complaints if work on WC-NG was dormant
or slow because people didn't work on it that much.
But it isn't, far from it. Those who do work on it are already working
so frantically, it does not surprise me that asking for quicker progress
without offering any kind of help is perceived as insulting.


Received on 2009-09-12 10:02:23 CEST

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