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Re: Issue #3242 is heating up.

From: Edmund Wong <ed_at_kdtc.net>
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 17:21:28 +0800

Stefan Sperling wrote:
> I think the problem is bigger than "just" the relationship to our
> user base. Even though that problem alone is a huge one.
> And I'm not just saying that to be dramatic ;)

Especially when most of the questions users place on IRC are
left unanswered. As much as I would want to help them, I
am still new 'round these parts and really don't know how
to begin.

> My impression is that last year, we had more active people working
> on Subversion than we do have now. Though I haven't really counted the
> number of commits per contributor or some such figure. It's just my
> personal impression based on who I get to communicate with on the
> dev list and on IRC. Some people are simply less active, and the most
> likely reason is that they stopped having fun.
> Work lies around because people do not have fun tackling really
> difficult problems under pressure from users demanding a fix under
> a right-now-or-else mantra, like $most_verbose_user_posting_to_#3242.

Heh. I read that post. I'd say I'm having fun reading the code,
but the frustrating part is there is so much to read and being
'slow' really doesn't help me at all. I did manage to grab a
hold of a C book (aside for K&R, I got the "C in a nutshell" one)
and while I'm not say I'm fluent, I do understand for the
most part in C. Now reading the headers isn't as hard. What
is now being the hurdle is how everything fits together. This
brings me to the topic of understanding how Subversion works.
To my dismay, I think I've been spoilt with TortoiseSVN. Sure,
I can checkout and update using the command line. I realized
I still have lots to learn. Which is a good thing. Me digressing
isn't, though. :)

(Side note re: 3342, I realized I have yet to see the 'messages'
at the end of the sw/up/merge command. Mostly due to me using
TortoiseSVN. (talking to myself mode) I'll need to learn the command
line, especially creating repositories locally and doing what those
automatic tests do. (end of talking to myself mode).

>> What do you guys think? Is there anyone with
>> the time and a degree of focus who can get us out of this?
> If Hyrum can invest the time, then great, he should do it. But he's
> already busy with wc-ng, which fixes a whole lot of other serious
> problems (doh!). So our resources are scarce, we have too many problems
> to fix.
> Nevertheless, we should try to do something as soon as possible.
> I can also look into finding time for this in June, though I was
> thinking about trying to tackle #1964, actually.
> I don't think I can do both. I have no prior experience with much
> of anything related to #1964 nor #3242, so either of these would
> already mean a huge investment of time for me.

It's ironic that I do have the time (mostly during the night) to do
a lot of the issues; but the knowledge is lacking (one of my
major frustrations).

Anyway, just my $0.02 even though I haven't offered much. I'll
work harder.


Received on 2009-06-03 11:30:09 CEST

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