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Re: representational problem in the schema

From: Hyrum K. Wright <hyrum_wright_at_mail.utexas.edu>
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 2009 22:35:13 -0500

On Apr 1, 2009, at 8:46 PM, Greg Stein wrote:

> Hey Hyrum,
> I'm trying to work out the discrepancy in how we handle the COPIED
> flag to satisfy both revert/17 and update/54. I figured out an
> approach, coded something up, and it works. But then I started
> thinking...
> I should probably stop doing that. :-P

Yeah. I was thinking today that it's amazing that we're on the brink
of getting >1100 test cases working with a *completely new* entries
storage paradigm. That's pretty crazy. But I'm scared about the
umpteen billion of other weird cases which we don't test, and at some
point, the workaround hacks will bite us.

Then again, we can only go so far to ensure perfect compat. We can't,
nor should we be perfectly bug compatible.

> Consider the following BASE tree:
> A
> A/B
> A/B/foo
> A/C
> Next, I delete the B directory. So we create two rows in WORKING:
> A/B, presence=not-present
> A/B/foo, presence=not-present
> All good. Now, I copy A/C_at_rev to A/B. Now we have something like:
> A/B, copyfrom=blah
> A/B/foo, presence=not-present
> Now. Just given the above data, talk to me about A/B/foo.
> <pause>


I see what the problem could be, and it's exactly what you describe

> Well.... there are two possibilities:
> 1) A/B/foo represents the deletion of the BASE node
> 2) A/B/foo represents a deletion of A/C/foo post-copy
> I've been thinking about the best way to represent this in our schema.
> I've come up with this approach:
> * leave it untouched, but interpret case (2) as distinguished using
> copyfrom records. we apply copyfrom info to the root of the deletion
> from the copied subtree. if no copyfrom info exists on the deletion
> root, then it represents a deletion from BASE
> But this feels a bit fragile. Something could come along and overwrite
> that node with other data, much like we overwrote A/B.
> So. Something fully orthogonal. New column, or record "deletion roots"
> or something...
> After consideration, I'm thinking a new presence value of
> "base-deleted". In the above two possibilities:
> 1) presence="base-deleted" means A/B/foo refers to the BASE
> 2) presence="not-present" means A/B/foo is a deletion of A/C/foo
> post-copy
> Everywhere we talk about not-present, we'd have to extend a bit, and
> probably adjust scan_working and crap.

This sounds reasonable. Are there additional scenarios where we're
going to have to think about even more presence values, or does this
just about cover it?

> Oh, and since A/B "shadows" a BASE node, then we implicitly know that
> a deletion happened first, before <whatever> brought A/B into the
> WORKING tree there (a replacement).

Sure, but will this always be the case, or are there cases where the
we could get into a situation where the parent isn't shadowing a BASE
node, and therefore can't make this implicit assumption? I can't
think of any.


Received on 2009-04-02 05:35:40 CEST

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