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Re: [ANN] hgsubversion - patches wanted!

From: Augie Fackler <lists_at_durin42.com>
Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2008 22:28:22 -0500

On Sep 30, 2008, at 9:39 PM, Karl Fogel wrote:

> Augie Fackler <lists_at_durin42.com> writes:
>>> Augie Fackler wrote on Tue, 30 Sep 2008 at 17:37 -0500:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.bitbucket.org/durin42/hgsubversion/
>>>>>
>>>
>>> Does our (Subversion's) trademark policy allow the name
>>> "hgsubversion" in
>>> this context?
>>
>> Ugh, I hate this kind of junk.
>>
>> If someone from the Subversion Corporation wants to weigh in, I'd
>> appreciate it before I get too much further with documentation. I
>> don't see any reason why there *should* be a problem with the name,
>> given my desire is to work with both communities, not against either.
>
> Oh, it has nothing to do with goodwill or intentions -- trademarks are
> just about preventing identity confusion, that's all.

I totally get it, I'm just a bit baffled. I figured since it was a
portmanteau of two words it wouldn't be a problem.

>> I'll gladly rename the project if necessary. It seems like such a
>> silly thing.
>
> "hgsvn" would be better, yeah.
>
> http://subversion.org/legal/trademark-policy.html is the document to
> read on this. It's short, readable, and very clear on this question.

As it turns out, hgsvn is another project that does something similar,
but different. I'll have to invent some new name tomorrow.

Just to verify: I do *have* to rename this?

>> (mumbling vexedly about intellectual property being exceedingly
>> annoying right now)
>
> :-)
>
> I understand that this wasn't where you wanted to spend mental energy,
> but trademarks -- that is, identities! -- are important. Without a
> distinguishable identity, users can't be sure what they're getting.
> Subversion got a trademark policy in response to actual situations in
> which its identity was being diluted or mixed up.
>
> Personally, I hate the term "intellectual property", because it
> confuses
> identity protection (trademarks) with the totally unrelated activities
> of restricting copying (copyrights) and restricting implementation
> (patents). http://www.fsf.org/licensing/essays/not-ipr.xhtml is a
> great
> article about this.
>
> -Karl
>

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