On 6/11/07, Garrett Rooney <rooneg@electricjellyfish.net> wrote:
> On 6/11/07, Karl Fogel <kfogel@red-bean.com> wrote:
> > [resending to list, as originally replied just to lsvkne@]
> >
> > lsuvkne@onemodel.org writes:
> > > If there are no big surprises discovered beyond what was
> > > described there, I wonder whether it might be possible to scope the
> > > effort now. Surprises being the big wildcard, given the complex history
> > > of this issue.
> >
> > I don't think the scoping is trivial; I certainly couldn't do it now.
> >
> > FWIW, in IRC earlier tonight one developer said he thought the $7500
> > figure was off by an order of magnitude. I don't know if that's right
> > or not (it probably is, as he's an expert in this problem), but
> > statements like that point to the importance of not skimping on the
> > scope/design stages! :-)
>
> FWIW, I was that developer, and I should probably clarify.
>
> When I was working on the current fs-atomic-renames branch the plans
> we had to take that work and use it to implement atomic renames would
> probably mean about 6 months of work before you could see anything
> particularly useful out of it.
>
> Now that doesn't preclude breaking it up into smaller chunks (although
> following the plan we had would mean the initial smaller chunks
> wouldn't be all that useful to an end user) or finding some other way
> to attack the problem, but if a developer was to continue down the
> path we were on back when I was hacking on it I can't see a whole lot
> of progress being made for the amount you're talking about.
It might be worth pointing out that Mike Pilato tried to get
re-acquainted with this plan and was no longer as confident that it
was as doable the way it was headed. Something about needing to re-do
the entire editor process to really make it work right.
I think the point just being that as Karl stated the scoping work here
is likely still very important to getting any progress on this.
--
Thanks
Mark Phippard
http://markphip.blogspot.com/
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Received on Tue Jun 12 01:59:33 2007