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Re: 500 for work on atomic renames?

From: Karl Fogel <kfogel_at_red-bean.com>
Date: 2007-06-11 23:00:19 CEST

lsuvkne@onemodel.org writes:
> $7500 for work on atomic renames?
>
> Maybe either I have taken a poor approach, or everyone is really not
> interested. I seek enlightenment. :)
>
> Would $7500 get us anywhere at all? Or, what would it take? Is
> everyone too busy with 1.5 right now? Thanks for any pointers
> or suggestions. This will help our nonprofit with a genealogy
> effort--we have a lot of development going on w/ branches
> and merges that will be affected by the rename dataloss problem.

I'm not sure whether the price is reasonable or not (haven't
investigated closely enough), but I suspect that any contract would
best be arranged in stages, with each stage having its own deliverable
and price. For example:

   1) Determine scope of remaining work.
      Deliverable: a post to dev@ describing what's left.

   2) Propose design/implementation to finish off remaining work.
      Deliverable: a post to dev@, etc.

   3) Shepherd proposal (2) through modification and acceptance.
      Deliverable: dev community consensus on the fix.

   4) Implement it.
      Deliverable: a patch, also posted to dev@.

You could combine (1) and (2), or use different stages, my point is
merely that it's not just a matter of "pick a price to finish atomic
renames", except as an estimate. (Also, whether the patch gets
committed or not would be outside the scope of the contract, although
naturally any developer who takes this on would want to see it
committed.)

In the process of going through those stages, you might discover that
some subset of the work is enough to solve your problems; it would be
good to find that out in time to modify the prices of later stages.

As for actually doing the work: I've been meaning to send you a
private mail, but what the heck, here is fine. I'm booked up for at
least a couple of months, but I *might* be interested in August or
later. I'm sorry it can't be sooner nor more definite, I've just got
other committments, including development committments here that I'm
already behind on :-). Maybe someone else can contract for this
before then -- I'd love to see the work get done as much as you would.

There seem to be a couple of changes with bounties on them now... what
was the other one, log message templates? It might be good to list
bountied bugfixes and features somewhere. I'm not sure it would make
it any more likely that a developer would show up to do the work, but
at least when someone gets some spare time, they'd know where to look,
instead of having to trawl the mailing list.

But, I haven't time to set up that page right now, I'm busy this week.
I may get to it next week, with an emphasis on "may", unless someone
else does it first, which would be great, of course.

-Karl

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