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Re: Change to /www/commercial-support.html

From: James Mountifield <JMountifield_at_clearvision-cm.com>
Date: 2007-01-23 09:35:42 CET

Hi Guys,

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-----Original Message-----

From: C. Michael Pilato [mailto:cmpilato@collab.net]
Sent: 22 January 2007 20:00
To: Karl Fogel
Cc: David James; Subversion Developers
Subject: Re: Change to /www/commercial-support.html

Karl Fogel wrote:
> On 1/22/07, C. Michael Pilato <cmpilato@collab.net> wrote:
>> and I were recently able to present at). Dunno what you're personally
>> looking for in terms of street cred for this company; and it's not clear
>> that we've ever agreed to make such judgment calls regarding our links
>> pages in the past.
> My memory (I haven't checked the archives, sue me :-) ) is that we
> treat links.html and commercial-support.html very differently. The
> former is "anything goes". The latter we take more responsibility
> for. I think this makes sense because generic links pages are
> traditionally unvouched-for -- no one really expects us to know
> much about the stuff there. The commercial support page, on
> the other hand, is independently linked to from our front page,
> and is solely about commercial support. There's a little bit more
> of an implication of endorsement there, and consequently more
> of the project's own reputation on the line.
> None of this is an objection to this particular blurb, just a reminder
> that we _have_ agreed to make such judgement calls for that page.

Okay. Yeah, I totally don't remember that outcome from the discussion,
but it makes perfect sense to me. +1 on the policy.

So, besides fixing the spelling error "Commericial Support" on that
page, I strongly suggest that we note -- on the page itself -- the
policy applied to adding and maintaining links there. This would
encourage future would-be listers to court the development community in
order to earn that personal vouched-for-edness.

C. Michael Pilato <cmpilato@collab.net>
CollabNet   <>   www.collab.net   <>   Distributed Development On Demand
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