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Re: Subversion & FAT failures

From: Carl Karsten <carl_at_personnelware.com>
Date: 2005-06-26 20:13:43 CEST

Erik Huelsmann wrote:
> On 6/26/05, Carl Karsten <carl@personnelware.com> wrote:
>>Erik Huelsmann wrote:
>>>After switching sussman's testsystem to FAT, it started failing lots of
>>>tests. From the logs, I conclude that status incorrectly reports files as
>>>unchanged. Checking manually with TSVN, I see the same. 'touch'-ing the file
>>>turns it into a 'changed' status.
>>>What we have here is the problem that FAT has a 2 second timestamp
>>>resolution, whereas we only 'sleep-for-timestamps' for 1 second.
>>>Conclusion: We're currently broken for use on FAT.
>>How does this effect use in the real world? My guess is the failure is due to the
>>automated test: update/sleep/check, which wouldn't happen in the real world.

> Subversion uses a changed-detection heuristic based heavily on the
> timestamp of the file. To be able to detect changes made to files
> immediately after the client exits , it waits a second after some
> operation, hoping that enough time has passed so the changes lead to
> a new timestamp. On FAT this won't work, because the second is too
> short: it has a 2sec resolution.

That didn't answer my question. I am wondering what the chances are of this
issued impacting normal usage, where "normal" is a person doing everything
interactively, not a script that simulates things happing faster than is humanly

Carl K

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