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RE: Subversion "Whole Product" team (Was: Roles within subversion development)

From: Steve Dwire <sdwire_at_parkcitysolutions.com>
Date: 2005-02-21 15:34:21 CET

Oh, no. I had no delusions of volunteering to become that person. I'm
just a lazy leech, taking advantage of everyone else's hard work on
Subversion for my own personal benefit. I was just hoping maybe we
could collectively come up with some way to convince (dupe?) someone
*else* into taking on that challenge. :-)

So... now, let me try to think of how it might be worth someone's while
to accept that responsibility. Hmmm, no ideas yet...


-----Original Message-----
From: kfogel@newton.ch.collab.net [mailto:kfogel@newton.ch.collab.net]
On Behalf Of kfogel@collab.net
Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 12:39 PM

As for a "whole product" coordinator: sure, that would be great, but
there's a reason no such person has stepped forward so far. It's a
big, difficult, and thoroughly unsexy job. This person would have to
have many different operating systems available; they couldn't
possibly have time to be a developer in all those related projects, so
they'd have to try to influence those other projects without
necessarily being able to write patches.

As Josh Siegel implied, something this big really has to be funded.
To some degree CollabNet is doing that right now, but not to the
degree that, say, Cygnus did for the GNU toolchain. What Cygnus did
required millions of dollars in staffing, equipment, and management.
But support for that toolchain was precisely what they were selling,
whereas the relationship between the Subversion "whole product" and
what CollabNet is selling is considerably more complex, and so
CollabNet strikes a different balance in what/how it funds Subversion.

I do agree with your analysis of the situation, and if you want to try
to be that "whole product" manager, we'll give you all the support we
can! But I admit I'd question your sanity :-).


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