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Re: svn 1.1.1 with r11211 - users perspective

From: Tobias Ringström <tobias_at_ringstrom.mine.nu>
Date: 2004-10-10 22:39:45 CEST

Ben Reser wrote:

>a) Time on my part. I should have time to do 1.0.9 and 1.1.1 this
>coming week.
That's great, but don't feel that it's your fault that we don't have
1.0.9 or 1.1.1 yet. You spoke against making new releases quickly which
is perfectly alright (although I don't agree, obviously). I think the
main reason that we've made zero progress towards new releases is that
the "big guys" (except brane) haven't made any comments (publicly)
neither for nor against a release. Maybe I should have called a vote.

>b) While the performance issue is annoying it is not a showstopper.
You make it sound like a fact, but frankly, that's your opinion. It is
most certainly a showstopper for people using "svn ls" or RA->get_dir
(as has been demonstrated several times).

> <>d) People that are finding this issue annoying have several options open
> to them. If they do not need path based authentication with DAV they
> can run 1.1.0-rc3. Practically the only difference between rc3 and rc4
> is the security fix (which causes this problem). And there is only a
> single syntax error fix in 1.1.0 final that was also introduced by the
> security fix. People that do need the security fix can apply the patch.

There are several problem with these options. First of all, they will
have to hit the bug first which is bad in itself, and how are they
supposed to find out which release (candidate) to use? Telling people to
apply patches is also hard, because most of our users are using binaries
which makes applying patches very hard. I'm also certain that we're only
seeing the tip of the iceberg in IRC and users@. There are probably many
people out there muttering and swearing by themselves or in other
forums. If we make a release with a regression as bad as this one
(thinking primarily of 1.0.8 here) without fixing it promptly, we'll
only upset people and make them less keen to upgrade in the future
(which is a problem for us because we don't want bug reports for already
fixed problems, and of course, we want to look good).

In short, our users should not have to pay for our mistakes needlessly.

>I don't forsee any issues with cutting 1.0.9 and 1.1.1 next week
>sometime. But I really do need to get through my email to see if there
>are any outstanding issues.


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