Re: subversion is broken

On Mon, Jun 21, 2004 at 10:00:19AM +1000, Jon Wells wrote:
> I thought I was reasonable specific.... if the server is incapable of
> surviving a failed transaction with the client... which it is.. then
> subversion is useless in a distributed development group.
>
> The problem is two fold...
> (a) the server can get messed by the client failing to complete cleanly.
> (b) this can the entire repository to become inaccessible to all others.
>
> It doesn't matter what the cause of (a) is, it happens.
>
> CVS, which we've reverted to using, fails point (a) but the damage caused is
> very isolated.
>
> (b) is a show stopper.

I think what Brane was trying to say, though perhaps not in the most
diplomatic way (not that you were being diplomatic either), is that:

a) We'd like to fix these problems. We're trying to do so as we become
aware of places where these problems are caused.

b) We can't do that without more information. If you have information
that can help us find a problem like this or maybe even something like a
replication recipe, we'd really like to have it.

Unfortunately berkeley db doesn't really like programs shutting down
unexpectedly. Obviously, we try to prevent that from happening. But
not only that some effort has gone into making a file system level
implementation that doesn't use berkely db.

The ironic thing of all this is that whlie we're trying to fix all these
things and are asking for your help in doing so, you tell us to
"Give up, go do something useful like watch TV." Yet, you go back to
using a piece of software that you claim has a similar problem, but
just isn't as bad in your opinion.

Don't be surprised when you send inflamatory emails when you get
inflamatory replies back.

-- 
Ben Reser <ben@reser.org>
http://ben.reser.org
"Conscience is the inner voice which warns us somebody may be looking."
- H.L. Mencken
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