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Re: Projects?

From: Marc Singer <elf_at_buici.com>
Date: 2003-10-22 03:22:14 CEST

On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:13:09PM -0700, Jack Repenning wrote:
> >Or, they don't come back at all. Do you really know that the
> >conversion rate is?
> Well, of course not. Still, in the spirit of empirical evidence, let
> me say that I've worked at a number of large, "enterprise" shops,
> including HP, Informix, SGI, and Rational; I've been involved in
> version control and process management for 20 years, and shipped a
> lot of code. And while that certainly doesn't make me an
> Unanswerable God Of Everything, it lends a certain interest to the
> observation that I have never, ever had to build a tool that would
> harvest the "change rate" info implicit in all the "one change, one
> version" systems we used during all that time. There may be a
> tangible market for this sort of info, but I've never stumbled into
> it. Every software manager *I've* ever worked with has been far more
> concerned with controlling the bug rate and the feature-release rate
> than the change rate either on any single file or on any composite
> file set. I've built a whale of a lot of systems to harvest and
> analyze *that* data! But none at all to leverage "change number."

<Expertise accepted.>

IMHO, there is often some histrionics when someone first sees the
repository version number. I think that my eyebrows raised the first
time I saw it and then the suprise wore off.

> >Is is really a bad idea to be able to put a keyword entry in a file
> >that is a file-relative change count?
> Naaaah. But (a) it's a bit more complicated than that, and (b) we're
> trying to stabilize, not perturb, the release at the moment. And
> since (c) we're collectively (if not unanimously) pretty sure the
> value is rather low.....

Fair enough. I don't think that that POV appeared in the original
thread. Also I don't think that he was being clear about what he was
looking for. SVN will *never* be a
source control system. ...and I'm still not sure if that's what he


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