RE: RE: Summary: URL rev proposals

Exactly. After seeing posts threatening (facetiously, I trust) to change the "private" syntax arbitrarily to make sure clients are using only the "right" (read "public") syntax, I wanted to make sure we realized that we really can't expect the DeltaV-compliant syntax to be private, and maybe we should not try to prevent bookmarking of that syntax.

The Redirect idea does a wonderful job solving the CLIENT-side problem of *discovering* the DeltaV syntax of a revision. If we are to allow bookmarking of the DeltaV syntax (which I agree we should), then we still must solve the same SERVER-side problems (i.e. spiteful administrators :-) as if we allow the client to generate the DeltaV syntax.

Your RFC-conformance argument to the "change the default !svn out of {spite|QA}" proponents is (to me at least) particularly convincing. I believe it should be part of the repository administrator's responsibility that the version URI of a resource does not change. If it does, said administrator's gets to deal with the fallout. SVN should make it easy to keep the version URI stable so the administrator stays out of trouble with his/her users.

S_E_D

-----Original Message-----
From: Julian Reschke [mailto:julian.reschke@gmx.de]
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 2:20 AM
To: Steve Dwire; Sander Striker; François Beausoleil
Cc: dev@subversion.tigris.org
Subject: RE: RE: Summary: URL rev proposals

> From: Steve Dwire [mailto:sdwire@pcsigroup.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2003 4:53 PM
> To: Sander Striker; François Beausoleil
> Cc: dev@subversion.tigris.org
> Subject: RE: RE: Summary: URL rev proposals
>
>
> (Posting in honor of a personal Lurker Day :-)
>
> One side-effect of the "Redirect" approach, however, is that if I
> follow a link to the PUBLIC (...?rev=... or whatever) URL in a
> web browser, the redirect will send the browser to the PRIVATE
> (.../!svn/bc/...) URL *before* I have a chance to bookmark the
> page. If other clients follow the same convention (if other
> clients even have the "bookmark" concept...), then users will
> have to make a conscious and painstaking effort to get their
> bookmarks in the format we desire. It will be much easier for
> users to do the *wrong* thing (bookmark the private format) than
> it will be for them to do the *right* thing (bookmark the public format).
> ...

IMHO, it absolutely the *right* URL to bookmark according to the relevant
specs.

I *do* like the Redirect idea to make it easier to *find* that URL for a
non-DeltaV-aware client. However, that should be a *permanent* redirect, and
the target URL really SHOULD NOT change at any time.

Julian

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